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As a new WWE viewer, I've seen a lot of negative comments on Twitter about WWE's constant channel and platform switching for programming and PPV. Some are justified, especially those who are justifiably upset about the fact that everything is tied to Netflix internationally, while programs and PPV are distributed everywhere in the US. Furthermore, some claim that the reason for Fox's departure is its lack of viewership. However, Fox's statements suggest that it's due to advertisers' refusal to advertise. I've also seen comments like these, including that Netflix viewership is lower than expected. Netflix announced that Raw gets 2.3-3 million views each week, and that WWE broadcasts overall have generated 280 million views in the first six months. This translates to 10 million views per week. Do you think this is a failure for Netflix, which pays $500 million annually for its broadcasts?
 
oktay said:
his translates to 10 million views per week. Do you think this is a failure for Netflix, which pays $500 million annually for its broadcasts?
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WWE doesn't have a "Off-Season".

They air content every week of the year.

RAW has 52 eps per year.
This isn't even factoring SmackDown! on the USA Network & NXT on CW.
Both of those shows eventually end up on NetFlix for VOD after airing live on their respective channels.

The final ep at the end of the year is a Annual ReCap show.

This isn't even factoring PPV's.

Right now there are 24+ PPV's scheduled this year (Some PPV's are still TBA).

NetFlix is getting more than their money's worth given the volume of "Live Content" being sent their way.
 
Kamen Rider Blade said:
This isn't even factoring SmackDown! on the USA Network & NXT on CW.
Both of those shows eventually end up on NetFlix for VOD after airing live on their respective channels.
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This is not true. I know that Netflix, NXT, and SmackDown are broadcast live simultaneously on the USA Network and the CW. Yesterday, SmackDown aired at 10:00 PM Turkey time because it was in Europe. When they produced the program in the US, it aired at 3 AM in Turkey. What time was it broadcast on the USA Network yesterday?
 
Kamen Rider Blade said:
WWE doesn't have a "Off-Season".

They air content every week of the year.

RAW has 52 eps per year.
This isn't even factoring SmackDown! on the USA Network & NXT on CW.
Both of those shows eventually end up on NetFlix for VOD after airing live on their respective channels.

The final ep at the end of the year is a Annual ReCap show.

This isn't even factoring PPV's.

Right now there are 24+ PPV's scheduled this year (Some PPV's are still TBA).

NetFlix is getting more than their money's worth given the volume of "Live Content" being sent their way.
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Netflix publishes Raw's weekly live viewing figures. It typically draws 2.5-3 million viewers worldwide. Netflix announced its six-month report, which also includes overall WWE broadcasts. Including SmackDown and NXT, it received 280 million views in the first six months. It's likely to surpass 500 million views by the end of the year, but it's unclear whether it's worth $500 million annually. Incidentally, the WWE and Netflix agreement is for 10 years, but after five years, Netflix has the right to cancel the agreement or extend it for another 10 years.
 
oktay said:
Netflix publishes Raw's weekly live viewing figures. It typically draws 2.5-3 million viewers worldwide. Netflix announced its six-month report, which also includes overall WWE broadcasts. Including SmackDown and NXT, it received 280 million views in the first six months. It's likely to surpass 500 million views by the end of the year, but it's unclear whether it's worth $500 million annually. Incidentally, the WWE and Netflix agreement is for 10 years, but after five years, Netflix has the right to cancel the agreement or extend it for another 10 years.
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The NetFlix deal is for $5 Billion over 10 years = $500 Million per year
 
Rikishi Fatu just lost his hard earned "WWE.ID" badge / affiliation for his KnokX Pro Wrestling School over the Raja Jackson incident.

Reports: WWE Officially Severs Ties With KnokX Pro Following Raja Jackson Incident

Raja being the son of Quinton "Rampage" Jackson, a MMA HoF-er.

Rikishi wasn't at the show, his cousin "Black Pearl" was running it at the time when this incident went down.

All of Rikishi's hard work, now down the drain.


This thing just really blew up and shows the dangers of inviting outsiders into the Pro Wrestling Bubble, people who don't know or understand what Pro Wrestling is.

Just because Raja's father understands it, & is a noted HUGE Fan of Pro Wrestling.

Doesn't mean his son Raja would necesarrily understand it.

Raja basically just turned his name into a Toxic / Nuclear RadioActive Warning Sign.

IMO, he has no future in ANY Combat Sport after this.

There's no reputable company / league or profession who would hire him.

He SQUANDERED any good will that his father created with his amazing legacy.


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Here's Stevie Richards analysis of the incident.

This should be a GIANT Wake-Up call for the rest of the Pro Wrestling industry, especially when it comes to inviting outsiders and not doing enough "Vetting" on them to see if they truly understand the business.
 
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Some people just look young despite being actually much older.

R-Truth / Rey Mysterio, how are they able to be so mobile despite both being ≥ 50 y/o.
 
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AJ Lee Returns!
 
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The official WWE website wrote something like this. However, social media accounts in different countries said it was on YouTube and that a Sony Sports channel would be broadcasting in India.
 
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The only reason it says 'Peacock in the US, Netflix internationally' is because it will likely be available on Netflix internationally starting next month.
 
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I was a bit optimistic listing AEW first in the thread title. Maybe I was going for alphabetical order.

My wrestling interest is pretty low right now. WWE is so patterned and sanitised. The terrible entrance music everyone has now, the "yeeting"...I can't imagine watching their weekly tv shows. I watch the PLEs, still, and usually they're an okay way to pass a few hours, but do I really care about anything other than the Kabuki Warriors? Not really. Okay, I did like the Cena/AJ where they did everyone else's moves on whatever show that was.

AEW does great ppvs which I take several days to watch because they're so long. But their tv shows are too similar to the ppvs as they just features lots of really long matches and not much else. I kind of miss the crash tv era in some ways. Not all the shitty Russo swerves, but how fast-moving things were.
 
CaptainWacky said:
I was a bit optimistic listing AEW first in the thread title. Maybe I was going for alphabetical order.

My wrestling interest is pretty low right now. WWE is so patterned and sanitised. The terrible entrance music everyone has now, the "yeeting"...I can't imagine watching their weekly tv shows. I watch the PLEs, still, and usually they're an okay way to pass a few hours, but do I really care about anything other than the Kabuki Warriors? Not really. Okay, I did like the Cena/AJ where they did everyone else's moves on whatever show that was.

AEW does great ppvs which I take several days to watch because they're so long. But their tv shows are too similar to the ppvs as they just features lots of really long matches and not much else. I kind of miss the crash tv era in some ways. Not all the shitty Russo swerves, but how fast-moving things were.
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I think AEW has more variety than WWE right now.

But there are still several Wrestlers that I really care for in WWE, so I need to skip through both shows to see all the talent I care about.
 
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