The next "Cadet" Pavel Chekov

[MarcKyle1964]

Oh god no. OK, the third one added much needed context but nothing in Abrams movies made them 'modern' except the visuals. The real science and Trek science was wrong and the characters were rewarded for unprofessional, bad decision-making.

I attended the first movie with my friend's 8-year old and his comment was, "That’s not how black holes work." When an 8-year old is unimpressed by your grasp of science in a science fiction movie, that's a fail in my book!

It was fun but it was also DUMB. I prefer Star Trek to be fun and smart.

There is a reason Mad Magazine satirized the Khan movie as Star Bleech: Into Dumbness

 

[MarcKyle1964]

I found that quite a few story beats in the Sehlat Who Ate its Tail seemed to be taking aim at some of the silly stuff in Trek09, even if the ultimate resolution was improbably simple.

Perhaps a better example of what I am trying to endorse is Andor. Mon Mothma was barely a cameo in RotJ, and a very minor character in the prequels but what a genius idea to place her as one of the three leads showing us three different perspectives of how the rebellion formed.

So yeah, I say give us Sulu, and Chekov but give us Rand too and don't shoe-horn in Chekov before he needs to be there if that means bumping out someone else. Don't do Rand wrong again!

We don't even see Chekov until second season TOS. Why would we possibly need to introduce him in SNW? Leave him with the rest of the lower decks crew til then.

 

[Turtletrekker]

We don't even see Chekov until second season TOS. Why would we possibly need to introduce him in SNW? Leave him with the rest of the lower decks crew til then.

Well, we do know that he was present during Space Seed.

 

[Pauln6]

Well, we do know that he was present during Space Seed.

The stardate of Space Seed is after Chekov's first appearance in Catspaw but his initial dialogue makes it clear that he is fairly new to the ship so having him on board for his cadet cruise might bend canon, albeit not completely break it if he stays a lower decker before that.

 

[MarcKyle1964]

Well, we do know that he was present during Space Seed.

That wasn't a mere retrocon, that was a RetroKhan!

 

[Nerys Myk]

Even in TOS, blue shirts did man the helm and navigation occasionally - they could easily give him a couple of guest episodes to establish how he excels as a pilot during a crisis. Spock is a physicist already so it was an odd choice to have another one but, that said, physics and astrophysics are probably quite important when flying in space. His botany was a more interesting trait and did get used in This Side of Paradise and That Which Survives, but it was portrayed as a hobby more than a formal qualification. Chekov on the other hand could reel off zoological facts. They probably could have worked that into the script as his minor subject at the academy.

If Sulu shows up, I doubt it will be as a physicist. Yes I know, but THE CANON!!!! We probably won't see Spock in gold, either.

 

[Sketcher]

I could see them bringing in Sulu as someone with pilot experience, but they don't have any positions open on the Enterprise, so he fell back on being an astrophysicist. Trek has a weird thing with its pilot characters having multiple professions, ie LaForge (engineering), Paris (nurse), Mayweather (background extra).

 

[Nerys Myk]

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