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Could Equinox have turned Voyager around?

If he was to committed to his "change the premise as time goes on" thing, he'd have found a way to keep the Pegasus.

That’s just silly. The show was about the deterioration of the titular ship and its crew until they find a new home. It wasn’t about finding a new ship that makes things better.
 
That’s just silly. The show was about the deterioration of the titular ship and its crew until they find a new home. It wasn’t about finding a new ship that makes things better.
And finding a new ship to work with is a reasonable thing to do in the story, but Moore couldn't stick to his guns and had to reset things.

Just like how he always reverted and made Roslin President again, or Adama the Fleet Commander again.
 
And finding a new ship to work with is a reasonable thing to do in the story, but Moore couldn't stick to his guns and had to reset things.

Just like how he always reverted and made Roslin President again, or Adama the Fleet Commander again.

Like I said, that’s because the show wasn’t about the Pegasus. And since it sounds like we’re talking in circles here (and quite frankly I find your justifications for Moore’s ‘bad’ choices to be pretty flimsy), I think I’ll just conclude this conversation here.
 
In fact, I'll use a TOS example. The original Enterprise is destroyed in Star Trek 3 and they take over the Klingon ship...and then at the end of Star Trek 4 they get a new ship of the exact same class type as the Enterprise to have adventures in.
 
Well, to one poster's point Voyager reflected TNG and TOS and was episodic, meant for easy viewing not complex stories.
 
Well, to one poster's point Voyager reflected TNG and TOS and was episodic, meant for easy viewing not complex stories.
I mean, if they wanted to do that they could've included a few changes to make it more acceptable. But really, if they wanted a TNG type show again they shouldn't have used the premise they had because it doesn't work with that.
 
But really, if they wanted a TNG type show again they shouldn't have used the premise they had because it doesn't work with that.
That was the desired show. Yes, they should have done a different premise as TNG really showed it wasn't a big deal.
 
That was the desired show. Yes, they should have done a different premise as TNG really showed it wasn't a big deal.
VOY's premise already was a shaky one that wouldn't have lasted more than a few seasons, but even then it doesn't lend itself to the "Random Adventures of a Ship" thing UPN wanted.

The sad truth is that TNG got so popular that it overshadowed the rest of Trek for that "Era" and stifled things creatively.
 
The sad truth is that TNG got so popular that it overshadowed the rest of Trek for that "Era" and stifled things creatively.
I mean, they wanted to continue with a financial success. Doesn't seem that strange. See also TWOK.
 
I mean, they wanted to continue with a financial success. Doesn't seem that strange. See also TWOK.

TWOK worked more for the precedents it set than the actual story, the story itself is full of contrived moments. But...it wasn't slow like TMP was and it was more "Relatable" because it had everyone more like a straightforward Military on a swashbuckler adventure.

They really just got lucky that they had lots of stuff leftover from TMP to recycle (and save money), that the new people brought in were lesser known and cost less, and because it was a "If this fails, Trek is over" mentality so the writers and everyone else were willing to go all out in a "Blaze of Glory" type thing.

Mission Impossible 2 tried the same thing, because people thought Mission Impossible 1's plot was too complicated and cerebral, Tom Cruise went for a straightforward action flick in MI2...it didn't really work and the film is held as one of the least good of the MI movies, even if it made money.

Voyager's real problem was the OPPOSITE of WOK: Because TNG had been a hit, Paramount and UPN wanted more of the same. WOK was allowed to do whatever it wanted (as long as it stayed in the smaller budget) because TMP HADN'T been the huge hit and it was a "The series might be dead if this fails, so do what you want" scenario.
 
They really just got lucky that they had lots of stuff leftover from TMP to recycle (and save money), that the new people brought in were lesser known and cost less, and because it was a "If this fails, Trek is over" mentality so the writers and everyone else were willing to go all out in a "Blaze of Glory" type thing.
Not quite. Meyer and Bennett worked together about 8 different drafts and I believe Bennett watched through TOS and thought of Khan.

What TWOK did was create a long shadow of tropes that many Trek stories tried to recreate. Similar, with Voyager there was that desire to have a show like TNG that could carry the franchise on a new network. A lot of pressure was out to balance both being the same and familiar yet different enough to draw people to a new network.
 
Not quite. Meyer and Bennett worked together about 8 different drafts and I believe Bennett watched through TOS and thought of Khan.

What TWOK did was create a long shadow of tropes that many Trek stories tried to recreate. Similar, with Voyager there was that desire to have a show like TNG that could carry the franchise on a new network. A lot of pressure was out to balance both being the same and familiar yet different enough to draw people to a new network.
Yes, Bennett watched all the episodes and he was down to either making the antagonist either Khan or Captain Garth or Kor. The idea of Kirk meeting his son and conflicting with him was there from the start.

What Paramount wanted was just a TNG copy, because TNG worked...but they failed to see the components that made it work specifically and assumed it was just down to "Starship having adventures of the week".

It wasn't. And the specific plot settled for VOY is very much NOT the kind of premise that lends itself to a TNG successor the way Paramount wanted.

If anything, Paramount should have had them make an anthology show for UPN with different crews and locations every week and no connectivity, like the 90s Outer Limits.
 
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