No it doesn't! How many people quote Shakespeare or Marcus Aurelius, Socrates or Sun Tzu? How much do we take for granted the good of a society in history and just focus on the bad?
It's nonsensical, and certainly not evolved.
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It's nonsensical, and certainly not evolved.
But isn't that just understanding context? We know people from the past were able to have great wisdom and make things like classical musical and whatnot but we also understand that even people who did noble things were also terrible in ways we would not approve of today. Like the founding fathers having so many slave owners. On one hand they created the Constitution. Yet they have their flaws and even the Constitution was not perfect but since they made it possible to amend things they made it so it was something that could be adjusted and improved on over time.
Starfleet in the 24th century will allow entire populations die at the altar of the Prime Directive. That is worse than many of the things our ancestors did. They can help, but they refuse to do so.
They aren't evolved, they're just assholes.
Robert Hewitt Wolfe (as quoted by Behr):
But I think that comes from a fear of playing GOD. If they save a primitive race for example from being hit by a asteroid then it means in 200 years those aliens could evolve and become space bullies to nearby alien planets. Which would be their fault for getting involved. They are very big into this idea that alien cultures have to find ways to evolve and change on their own because their interference can have negative side effects they can't anticipate.
No, it wouldn't. We are each responsible for our actions in the here-and-now. Not playing some random game of guessing the future to absolve us of responsibility. Once you go into someone else's space in the name of exploration, you are on the hook to help, especially considering you asked or gained no permission to do so.
Exploration has costs associated with it.
Do we not grab the toddler from in front of a moving bus because that toddler could grow up some day to be Hitler? Of course not. It is a fucking ludicrous idea.
But what about all the aliens civilizations that have died because Starfleet never encountered them while exploring space? I think that goes back to their fear of playing GOD which I suspect is even more deeper held do the fact that it seems like all humans have become atheist in the future. I also wonder if it's a fear of temptation. If they don't hold on strong to the Prime Directive then maybe all of those old human voices of exploiting less developed worlds and conquering them will come back.
As a vegetarian, I don't eat bacon. But, even if I wasn't, I'd stay away from eating pig products. I'm with Jules from Pulp Fiction. I wouldn't want to eat an animal that eats its own feces. Sorry.
This bacon craze, I don't get it. I never saw the episode were Spock loves bacon, but the thought of Spock grinning over bacon makes me cringe. Just like the thought of Spock saying "Sponge Robert".
Seriously -- another Controversial Opinion -- I don't get what you guys see in SNW. "It's like TOS!" No, it's not. Other than some visual cues, the two shows could not be more dissimilar. And it sounds like it's going to become sillier and sillier. You only like it because it's the Flavor the Month.
This bacon craze, I don't get it. I never saw the episode were Spock loves bacon, but the thought of Spock grinning over bacon makes me cringe. Just like the thought of Spock saying "Sponge Robert".
Seriously -- another Controversial Opinion -- I don't get what you guys see in SNW. "It's like TOS!" No, it's not. Other than some visual cues, the two shows could not be more dissimilar. And it sounds like it's going to become sillier and sillier. You only like it because it's the Flavor the Month.
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And thank God for that.
This makes no sense. You can't help someone if you don't know them or their problem exists. I'm sorry this is Grade-A horseshit.
The Prime Directive didn't stop Starfleet from attempting to exploit the Ba'ku.
I tend to agree. Though that isn't my issue with the show, it just feels very been there, done that. There's seemingly very little imagination involved.
Watching the first season, it reminded me more of mid-run TNG than anything TOS related. Of course, it is a mileage may vary situation.
The Ba'ku were being exploited though by just one Admiral working on his own. Maybe with the help of a few others. Their is for sure elements in Starfleet that doesn't mind crossing ethical lines from time to time and it's not all members of Section 31. I mean that is why we have so many crazy Admirals in Trek.
I think they do. Picard was generally pretty well thoughtful on this, minus a few bad writing moments in season 1.
Perhaps the distant past but not anything related to 20th century or people who might be like them. Bad writing doesn't change the attitude.
Pike.
Might want to go watch the movie again...
You can post your own opinion of the show, but this is really weak sauce. You have no idea why other people think the way they do.
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