For me, there’s just no sense of wonder to Star Trek anymore. It used to fire my imagination. Now? The newer stuff just reminds me how much better and more creative the older stuff is.
What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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For me, there’s just no sense of wonder to Star Trek anymore. It used to fire my imagination. Now? The newer stuff just reminds me how much better and more creative the older stuff is.
it's just always wierd to me when a person says "finally i could" when there was another way for a long time, and they just ignored it (or possibly even didn't know about it)
that sounds judgemental. not really meant to be, person to person.
it *is* judgemental when i read an article that says "X finally explains Y" for something (usually Star Wars, i admit) and it's something that *had* an explanation twenty five years ago in extended material, or even in the oiginal source and i think "you know, it's kind of your job to at least google that, even if you don't know it of the tip of your brain like me the reader. and mention it, even if you dwnplay it" but then i realise that it's just a soft advertisement for the NEW thing and mentioning the OLD thing is BAD, and not a real article and grumble and go make a doodle of an obscure character with a laser cannon for a head or something.
That is simply their sphere. They aren’t interested in that type of material (novels, comics).
Plus, many folks have a limited amount of time, so they have to focus on what’s important to them.
You'll need a MUCH larger sample size than 11 fans, that's for sure.
Orders of magnitudes larger.
not all academics are teachers. or at least, any good at it. and sometimes they come up with stuff counter to the experience of the common folk and try to shove it into the same context without really trying to educate and then it's the common folk's fault.
talking about such which could be it's own controversial opinions thread XD
which is why i said it wasn't really meant to be judgemental, except to the person whose *job* it is to write about such things and don't do the quickest research
Which Star Trek Movie are you refering to?
on another subject: as... disppointed i was by Picard, even the third season, while the "bringing the gang back together" aspect was nice...
i feel bad for the romulan lady. i liked her, and they were clearly developing a relationship between her and picard, but FWOOOP completely dropped with no comment, no acknowledgement at all, when Beverly popped up
i feel bad for the romulan lady. i liked her, and they were clearly developing a relationship between her and picard, but FWOOOP completely dropped with no comment, no acknowledgement at all, when Beverly popped up
Obvi.
I think SNW does as good a job that modern trek can do to go back to an adventure a week, but it also needs to be careful to avoid being so self referential. In an era where 2nd and 3rd generation fans become screenwriters, the urge to do so is probably unbearable, but Trek has to be its own thing, and not some Ouroboros eating its own tail for the protein or the lols. It's got to be fun and full of wonder and adventurous. I need to care enough about the extra characters but not have to know them enough to file their taxes for them.
I could've swore you were referring to ST TOS Movies 5 or 6.
Creativity isn’t something you can manufacture or vote on.
At least the fans can give you some bounding boxes to work within so your creativity parameters don't go too far and too off track.
Anyway.
I'm loving the soft reboot of TOS that is SNW. Does it fit perfectly with what was made ~60 years ago? No. But with "Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow" it's even lampshaded (at least some of) the divergences.
Some of the best stuff? Spock and Christine. "Subspace Rhapsody," which was absolutely the sort of episode that would have been inconceivable for TOS. When Buffy made its musical, most of Berman-era Trek was already in the can. They could have done a musical in ENT, but I guess it just wasn't their thing. Heads would have exploded, I can tell you.
New, different, experimental, and attempting to break out of the mold are better than same-old memberberries, even if the experiment fails.
Full disclosure: Been a fan since the early 1970s, I was reared on TOS.
I actually am one of the fans that like the self referential nature though.
So you want creativity stifled. Why am I not surprised.
Why am I not surprised.
Here's a controversial opinion, Trek fans should stop speaking on behalf of other Trek fans, who they do not know and will never meet.
This is a contradiction in terms.
it wasn't me referring to anything, but TWOK seems to be the ESB of star trek movies with the og cast
personally Undiscovered Country is my favorite, though i recognize i can punch abunch of holes in it as an adult; followed by TMP, for being closest to the core thingy (imo)
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