What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[fireproof78]

What would be the point?

Comfort.

Douglas Adams very specifically made a point of making sure that the radio show, novels, television show and movie for Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy were different from each other.

Indeed. Adaptation is a process and needs to weed out elements that don't fit within the medium; case in point, Sam bring tempted by The Ring. Great literary prose but poor cinema.

Starship Troopers and Baby Blues are two I was more disappointed in but there's still value there and it doesn't have to be just for fans.

 

[Tallguy]

Which letters should be capitalized and which ones shouldn't be.

But NOT if it should be one word or two.

 

[XCV330]

Steve1989MRE is still doing it in 3189. He preserved himself after eating too many boxes of World War II Army Air Forces fudge.

Hydraulic Press Guy is forming new kinds of matter with his neutron-press

 

[DarrenTR1970]

Hitchcock would change many elements of the novels he would use as the basis of his films.
I never understand people that watch a TV/movie adaption of something from another medium and expect 100% of the same thing. What would be the point?

A good example would be Norman Bates from 'Psycho'.

If you're only familiar with the movie, you might think he looks like Anthony Perkins.

Robert Bloch, the author of the novel Psycho, described Norman as being an alcoholic short sighted, overweight, balding man in his mid forties, who only becomes Mother when black out drunk.

But Hitchcock and screenwriter Joseph Stefano quickly realized that someone like that wouldn't appear sympathetic to the audience and made him the much younger, slightly effeminate person we associate with the character today.​

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

A direct, 1:1 adaption of the source material from one form of media to another hardly ever works.

The movie "Sin City" was pretty faithful to the original comics.

Hitchcock would change many elements of the novels he would use as the basis of his films. Anime adaptions of manga like Kimagure Orange Road or 16bit Sensation significantly retooled the events or overall narrative to fit the storytelling medium. M*A*S*H significantly retooled the narrative, flipped the personalities of Hawkeye and Trapper, and drastically reduced the number of characters.

But other Animes have been pretty faithful as well to their original source material.

I never understand people that watch a TV/movie adaption of something from another medium and expect 100% of the same thing. What would be the point?

Some people want one thing, the other doesn't mind changes, it depends on how it's done.

There's certain expectations from any conversion of the original source material to a new medium.

 

[Nerys Myk]

It deviated too much from the story in the games and added in original characters that clashed with the original story.

So they gave up and moved onto something else.

Yeah didn't play the game. Even if I had, I wouldn't care about it deviating from the source. If I'm engaged and entertained its all good.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Yeah didn't play the game. Even if I had, I wouldn't care about it deviating from the source. If I'm engaged and entertained its all good.

Everybody is a bit different.

They're a fan of the games & books, so they wanted to see that story brought to life.

They didn't want to see what Hollywood injects into the story to "make it their own".

Different strokes for different folks.

 

[cooleddie74]

I mainly view Halo as me playing against a computer and other live humans, so I knew that so long as I subtracted that visceral, emotional expectation from the equation I could enjoy Halo the series and that fictional universe as purely a spectator, and that's why I enjoyed it. For the first time I could immerse myself in the Halo universe and not worry about shooting back, running for cover or slaying an enemy and it was relaxing.

 

[Nerys Myk]

They didn't want to see what Hollywood injects into the story to "make it their own".

What an absurd statement. Presents a motivation that is rarely present

 

[Firebird]

There's certain expectations from any conversion of the original source material to a new medium.

Audience expectations shouldn't be the overriding motivation in making any piece of art.

If I make something, I'm making something I want to see. If the audience comes along, fine, but I'm not going to be beholden to them or their opinions. My job is to give them something they didn't know they wanted.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

What an absurd statement. Presents a motivation that is rarely present

Hollywood loves to modify the original story / content of something they license and change things to "make it their own".

It's a pretty common occurance when dealing with somebody elses IP that they license.

They already did it in Halo by creating characters that were never in the game and focus on those characters.

Audience expectations shouldn't be the overriding motivation in making any piece of art.

If I make something, I'm making something I want to see. If the audience comes along, fine, but I'm not going to be beholden to them or their opinions. My job is to give them something they didn't know they wanted.

But is this your original work, or work derived off somebody elses IP?

 

[Firebird]

But is this your original work, or work derived off somebody elses IP?

Doesn't matter. Art is art, and should come from the same motivation. Nick Meyer felt the exact same way, and talks about it in any interview he gives on Trek.

 

[Finn]

I wonder what Shakespeare would think of all the adaptions of his plays in the past few centuries, after he had passed. I'm sure he'd have an critique or two.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I wonder what Shakespeare would think of all the adaptions of his plays in the past few centuries, after he had passed. I'm sure he'd have an critique or two.

He'd probably be more interested in royalty checks.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Hollywood loves to modify the original story / content of something they license and change things to "make it their own".

It's a pretty common occurance when dealing with somebody elses IP that they license.

They already did it in Halo by creating characters that were never in the game and focus on those characters.

It's called an adaptation. A lot of factors shape how an IP is adapted. "Making it their own" with or without scare quotes probably doesn't make the list.

I'm a comic book fan. I could easily turn my back on the movies because of the "egregious" liberties taken in the MCU by Hollywood trying "make it their own". I don't because I get how adaptations work.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

It's called an adaptation. A lot of factors shape how an IP is adapted. "Making it their own" with or without scare quotes probably doesn't make the list.

I'm a comic book fan. I could easily turn my back on the movies because of the "egregious" liberties taken in the MCU by Hollywood trying "make it their own". I don't because I get how adaptations work.

Everybody has different standards, if that works for you, by all means enjoy it.

Not everybody is going to see things the same way, and that's fine.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Everybody has different standards, if that works for you, by all means enjoy it.

Not everybody is going to see things the same way, and that's fine.

Point isn't about different standards. That's fine.

 

[cooleddie74]

If someone's enjoyment of Halo is based around the show having characters that don't exist in any of the preexisting video games then all I can say is:

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[Ray Hardgrit]

Personally I think if they're going to make big changes to the story or characters they should make a big change to the title as well, call it something different. Let people find out that it was an adaptation in the trivia section of its IMDb page.

Otherwise if they're selling something on being a thing, it should be the thing. I mean I'm a Starship Troopers movie fan, but I can sympathise with all the fans of the book after the movie turned out to be satire (with no powered armour). They should've thought up a new name like "Bug Hunt at Outpost 7" or whatever.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

They should've thought up a new name like "Bug Hunt at Outpost 7" or whatever.

No. By the way, IIRC, a new film adaptation of the work appears to be coming down the pike.

Star Trek has been adapted several times, both in and out of canon, sometimes faithfully, sometimes not so much. As the current example, SNW is essentially an adaptation of TOS, and it's fairly faithful but not absolutely so. How's that for a controversial opinion?