Sorry, I wasn't born then, and I haven't had time to go back and watch TOS.
I grew up with the TNG era, so that's my Trek. Everything that is TNG and newer.
What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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I grew up with the TNG era, so that's my Trek. Everything that is TNG and newer.
In the name of science of course.
I was born in 1971, two years after the original was cancelled. Still, by far, the most imaginative the franchise has ever been.
they're going where their heart and a gigaton of explosive ordinance can take them..In the name of science of course.
You don't like the newer Trek Series?
What does when you were born have to do with it? You seem to have a fair amount of free time, too.
That wasn’t what I said, was it? I’m watching Deep Space Nine, right now.
My youngest son is named Benjamin.
Did he say that?
You're getting ahead of yourself. At this point, all Lucero did was state an opinion contrary to what Edward thought, to which Edward declared her stupid and wrote a complaint to Starfleet. Edward was the one being inappropriate and reacting completely out of proportion. She had not decided to remove him from the ship until after Starfleet notified her of this complaint. And at that stage, she was within her rights to remove such an officer from her crew.
Starfleet and the Federation are not fascist. People do not get locked up for stating an opinion.
Lucero's the Captain, her word is Law on her ship. This is true regardless of what kind of ship it is, military, civilian, a ship of scientists or in a "hybrid service" or whatever. Anyone who can't accept that has no place being on a ship.
But then there's a pesky situation like Starfleet regulations and protocols. Undeniably, it was a dick move on Edward's part to go behind Lucero's back and make a report to Starfleet calling her stupid just because she disagreed with her. And while she does have the right to have such an officer removed from her ship, she does not have the right to revoke his command access and confine him in quarters under armed guard just for stating an opinion. The part you don't seem to be grasping despite myself and others telling you repeatedly in this thread is that Captain Lucero did everything Starfleet regulations and protocols allowed her to do in this situation. That the ship was lost anyway is not her fault, even though she is the one who will end up being penalized for it.
On TOS, Kirk referred to himself as a soldier. That was not a writer's mistake.
About the idea of the ship having a so-called "Office Environment," no, it is not. In the episode "A Private Little War," Kirk--tense and frustrated after Spock had been shot by a native--barked at his bridge crew:
"I did not invite a debate!"
The crew (Scott, Chekov, Uhura, et al.) respected his authoritative position, as is the nature of a military command structure. Kirk apologized (they are his friends, after all), but his natural response was to shut down opinions he did not necessarily ask for, because that is the kind of training he--and all Starship captains--received. That is far closer to military relations than any loose, civilian kind of interaction.
I have many other things I need to catch up on as well.
Trek isn't the only Franchise I follow.
I have many backlogs of many different things from Various other Shows, to numerous Anime series, to Tokusatsu, to J-Dramas, to Games.
Then there's work & various IRL responsibilities.
That's not to mention keeping up with Tech on a daily basis.
congrats. it's honestly a little hard for me to figure out which logical fallacy you're using. I'm just going to say faulty causality.
dude.
If you wish to make authoritative statements about Star Trek you should watch Star Trek first.
But they were on a Scientific Away mission that turned into a Combat Situation. Am I right about that?
He enforced the "Chain of Command" since the situation changed from a Scientific Mission into a Military Combat Situation.
It makes sense that he enforces that kind of Authority & Military Hierarchy when the situation calls for it.
That was the right time to do so, in the right situation.
But that's diferent from Captain Lucero's situation entirely.
I'll watch TOS when I get around to doing so, it's on my list of things to Watch.
Eventually I'll go buy the ReMastered Blu-Ray set.
Are you seriously talking about "Who's the Boss?", the Sitcom show staring Tony Danza?
I see you are a fellow WhoseTheBosser also
Then you really don't have the knowledge base to discuss what Starfleet is and isn't.
I wasn't even born until more than five years after TOS went off the air, and it's still my favorite Trek series and the most inventive and best-written in the entire franchise. Everything Trek is or ever will attempt to be stems directly from The Original Series.
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