Cool, it's a ship variant, especially given how tiny they are in general, it makes a lot of sense for one vessel to morph into that configuration.
Babylon 5
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wasn't the same people that did the Babylon 5 Thirdspace ships the ones that did the Species 8472 ships? I mean they look kinda similar, I always thought it was the same people that designed both.
The 8472 ships were designed by Steve Burg, whose design contributions to Babylon 5 included the Starfury, Thunderbolt, and (maybe) the Strieb ship, but the Thirdspace ships were designed by Luc Mayrand.
No, that was Douglas Netter's company. Foundation did B5 seasons 1-3, and VOYAGER season 3 onward.
Though the Species 8472 and Vorlon ships... I can see a bit of similarity with them. The Thirdspace ships, too... perhaps a version of early concepts of Vorlon ships? (Netter was an executive producer alongside JMS since the beginning of B5.)
Thanks ... I gotta watch some Voyager again sometime
So who do you think is more trustworthy: Shadows or Ferengi?
And let me explain:Another reason I think it's the Shadows who were behind the destruction of the jumpgate is that, in the B5 universe, it's considered a gross violation of rules of engagement to attack a jumpgate directly, because the jumpgate network is needed by every spacefaring race. Not even terrorists would dare attack one.
The Shadows, OTOH, are so obsessed with chaos and disorder and death that there's NO law they would ever respect. They don't care how many people die, or how much destruction is caused. Indeed, that's their very reason for being - to cause as much chaos as possible. Destruction of jumpgates, whether or not there's anyone using them, is absolutely something they'd do.
Then again, terrorists are like that as well. They also don't care who dies, they also want to cause as much death and destruction as they can, and I doubt they'd respect rules of engagement any more than the Shadows would. So just forget it.
The Shadows don't love Chaos.
They love people, and use war to protect them.
If the Shadows suddenly stopped caring about the younger races, they would stop murdering billions of them every time they wake up from hibernation every few thousand years, and then every younger race, all of them, would stagnate, watching the stars in the galaxy explode, one by one, until they freeze to death.
The Shadows....love people?? Really? That's the funniest thing I've heard all week. 
Like a farmer loves cows.The Shadows....love people?? Really? That's the funniest thing I've heard all week.
Not to take the shitpost too seriously, but there was a canon short story that ties in with the Psi-Corps trilogy that reveals a bit about how the Vorlons created telepaths in the younger races, and they did it by genetically engineering pure telepaths from other species, and then using them as stock from which to take the telepathy gene and introduce it to the existing population. The trick was that telepathy was too powerful to evolve naturally in a technological civilization, because it would solve all the animal's problems and remove all evolutionary pressure. If they were being hunted by a predator, they could project an illusion into its head to make it think they weren't there. If they needed food, they could compel other animals to bring it to them.
The pure telepaths the Vorlons created were just sort of idle, letting their mind-powers force others to take care of all their basic needs while they lazed around.
I have them. As long as you don't mind the missing commentary tracks and gag reels, they are definitely worth buying. Much better picture than the DVDs and without the fake widescreen.
I hardly listen to commentary tracks, and gag reels are often found online. Thanks!
The Gathering is included?
Yeah, about 4/5ths of it by area. It's badly upscaled and cropped and overall looks worse than the DVD (it's also the special edition, not the '93 cut), but it's the one "special feature" on the blu-ray set.
Ok, coolcool. It's something I guess. Thank you for the info!
If your DVDs still play, don’t bother. There is nothing extra, the case sucks and 1/3 of mine had fat fingerprints that needed cleaning to play them.
You know, apropos of nothing, I wish the original Babylon 5 “franchise” — yes, I know JMS didn’t want to call it that — had continued (or been allowed to continue, fan productions included). Much like Star Wars (or Arthuriana), there was both a Big Story to which arcs could be endlessly appended (and in some cases begged to be), and a big open space for unrelated stories, and a nice grand future history with both an overall shape and room for endless new stuff. It would have been nice for Babylon 5 in 2025 to be where Star Trek and Star Wars and Doctor Who and even Alien are now (whatever individual fans think of their particular franchise states), with both continuing new productions and continuing unofficial stuff forever widening the playground.
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