Colony scooping mentioned in "The Neutral Zone."
Even if you add this and “Family”, it brings us to a grand total of eight TNG Borg episodes.
Colony scooping mentioned in "The Neutral Zone."
Oh, yes, "Family." I'd count that episode also; it's an underrated one at that.Even if you add this and “Family”, it brings us to a grand total of eight TNG Borg episodes.
They were in four stories.
More than four episodes, then they were shoved into a movie and into Picard. TNG and associated spin-offs cannot live without the Borg in one way or another.
Now, that's moving the goalposts. You said, "TNG," we responded to what was said in the first place. We even acknowledged the heavier reliance in the spin-offs.More than four episodes, then they were shoved into a movie and into Picard. TNG and associated spin-offs cannot live without the Borg in one way or another.
The overexposure of the Borg is what happened when a series (TNG--that was as about as interesting / exciting as TMP overdosing on a warehouse filled with sleeping pills) needed to mainline great concepts to save itself. TNG's showrunners knew it needed to milk the one, non-sleep inducing concept to death in order to keep viewers from dozing off to the adventures of Captain Tea-drinker, Mr. Adjust-a-Shirt or the "advanced" Mannequin (oh, please--the Old Ones' android technology was far more advanced than Data). From there. it was Borg, Borg, Borg and more Borg, and it will never end.
You have TNG mixed up with VOY regarding the Borg.The overexposure of the Borg is what happened when a series (TNG--that was as about as interesting / exciting as TMP overdosing on a warehouse filled with sleeping pills) needed to mainline great concepts to save itself. TNG's showrunners knew it needed to milk the one, non-sleep inducing concept to death in order to keep viewers from dozing off to the adventures of Captain Tea-drinker, Mr. Adjust-a-Shirt or the "advanced" Mannequin (oh, please--the Old Ones' android technology was far more advanced than Data). From there. it was Borg, Borg, Borg and more Borg, and it will never end.
That's 23 episodes out of 172... nearly an entire season of Berman era production. (And being honest, this is a quick remembrance... I might be missing one or two.)
VOYAGER was definitely the one that overused the Borg, not TNG.
Being fair, I can't really do that, since she was not a Borg after "THE GIFT". (I suppose I could add "THE GIFT" to the total, but because she was in the process of getting de-Borged, I don't count it. Also, I know for a fact she did not appear in "NEMESIS", and possibly one other episode, but I get your point on her being in the rest of the show.) This is also why I never counted the Borg kids when they appear in episodes after "COLLECTIVE".Then you add in Seven of Nine being in every episode of seasons four through seven. Voyager definitely overused the Borg.
Outside of the eight stories mentioned, TNG didn’t make Picard’s Borg experience a running plot line with his character, due to studio resistance against serialization. Seven’s Borgness was inherent to her character and arc.Otherwise, we would be counting every TNG episode after Picard was rescued, since he became a former Borg.
Being fair, I can't really do that, since she was not a Borg after "THE GIFT". (I suppose I could add "THE GIFT" to the total, but because she was in the process of getting de-Borged, I don't count it. Also, I know for a fact she did not appear in "NEMESIS", and possibly one other episode, but I get your point on her being in the rest of the show.) This is also why I never counted the Borg kids when they appear in episodes after "COLLECTIVE".
Otherwise, we would be counting every TNG episode after Picard was rescued, since he became a former Borg.
Seven still needed to keep some of her implants in order to survive, several of them visibly, as she was a member of the Collective for much longer than Picard - the implants were more heavily integrated into her physiology, having been assimilated for so long. Picard wasn't Locutus long enough, allowing Beverly to remove all his implants - they hadn't taken full hold of his body yet. The only thing that really remained was the non-physical PTSD that Picard suffered from "Family"-onward.Being fair, I can't really do that, since she was not a Borg after "THE GIFT". (I suppose I could add "THE GIFT" to the total, but because she was in the process of getting de-Borged, I don't count it. Also, I know for a fact she did not appear in "NEMESIS", and possibly one other episode, but I get your point on her being in the rest of the show.) This is also why I never counted the Borg kids when they appear in episodes after "COLLECTIVE".
Otherwise, we would be counting every TNG episode after Picard was rescued, since he became a former Borg.
It's possible that saucers and nacelles ARE the alien influence.The Federation has way too little design variation and the saucer design is over-rated. It makes sense for the lead ships but I would appreciate more Alien influence in ship designs and construction.
And yes, she still had some of the implants. (They were used as a plot point several times.)
The jokes write themselves, don't they?
The Federation has way too little design variation and the saucer design is over-rated. It makes sense for the lead ships but I would appreciate more Alien influence in ship designs and construction.
And completely defanged them.as well, making sure the Voyager crew comes out on top. While I don't agree with much of TNG'S use of the Borg, it at least gave a measure of variation, either with isolated groups or exploring individuals.VOYAGER was definitely the one that overused the Borg, not TNG.
Eight episodes out of 178.
The later over reliance on the Borg by the franchise is not the fault of TNG.
It is like blaming TOS for SNW moving the Eugenics Wars.
That's not rare or random, for what the Borg ultimately represented to the main character.
If the Borg only appeared in "Q Who", I doubt they would've been shoehorned into other ST productions. They would have been a one-and-done threat (yes, even after Picard believed the Borg learned their location) similar to the Planet Killer from "The Doomsday Machine" or the parasites from "Operation--Annihilate!", but that did not happen.
Not quite the same issue. Unlike TNG with all things Borg, TOS made one and only one reference to the Eugenics Wars in a single episode (and the specific event was not even mentioned in the direct movie sequel), so the Eugenics Wars was not the "hot thing" returning over and over again in TOS, then piggybacked in future series. The Borg did return several times in TNG--they were the Big Bad (their Romulans and Klingons were not), and used to milk them as an "event" in every appearance post debut.
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