I concur, back then, in the 1960's it was definitely make it up as you go along era.
I'm glad we're long past that era.
What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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I'm glad we're long past that era.
An era where creativity was appreciated? I miss it everyday.
Definitely. The problem is you get a lot of newer shows that try to keep tapping into the "old thing" and it just feels over-saturated, I always wanted a prequel series before Enterprise.
You don't think we appreciate creativity today?
I was fine with ST:ENT being the prequel series.
One attempt is fine.
I'd rather move forward past the 24th century along a new timeline.
DISCO did it's own thing, I'd rather take the knowledge that DISCO accumulated and move forward along a new timeline for my 26th Century UFP and what is going on at the start of the 26th Century.
Watching CBS’ current output? No.
What issues do you have with current Trek Productions?
I would think my prior posts would point to a lack of creativity…
You could be a bit more specific as to what issues you have with CBS at the moment.
In this heavily corporatized era of nothing but IP and franchises?
Definitely not.
It wallows in nostalgia to the point I want to puke. That make things more clear?
IC.
Sometimes, part of creativity is working within restrictions.
Existing IP & Franchises provide a frame-work for creatives to work under.
Sometimes the best works comes from having some limiters placed on you and see what you can come up with.
Copying the work that had massive restrictions doesn’t make the new work creative.
Yup. There’s a big difference between “the enemy of art is a lack of limitations” as Orson Welles put it and being saddled to a long-running franchise that’s a victim to its own continuity and its corporate overlords.
It's figuring out what you can bring that is new and innovative while within the set frame-work that is creative.
Otherwise, don't play in a existing franchises playground.
Yeah I was glad they didn't do them in those shows.
So far, many of the arguments you’ve been putting across have been for creativity in regards to the tech and production design side of things, not so much for the characters or scripts. At the end of the day, the story is what matters, not the window dressing.
And in the case of where the Trek franchise is at this point, it seems like there’s been a growing focus on the window dressing.
Voyager is splitting hairs. Call in an oval section if you want. Even the Defiant is basically an oval with Nacelles and a nose.
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This has been growing for about a decade, if not longer in my humble estimation. I recall watching a Pike fan film several years back and featured heavy themes like PTSD, alcoholism and personal struggles. It was lauded for being Star Trek because it got the set dressing right while Discovery was called "too dark" and Picard was " not Trek" because it featured PTSD and drug use.
That's what the writers & actors are for, to bring those characters & story's to life.
Did you not enjoy ANY of the "Nu Trek" that has come out since the end of the Berman/Braga era?
Window Dressing is going to improve no matter what, that's just keeping up with the times.
The Characters & Stories remain the sole domain of the Writers & Actors who portray them.
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