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I really liked scruffy Turtle People tent dweller Ezra. At this point he's spent twelve or thirteen years away from his friends and stranded in another galaxy, so frankly he'd probably be even more different and less recognizable after that long away from everything he'd ever known. The fact he's an adult Ezra but still recognizably Ezra was a real accomplishment by the show.
I could not disagree more. Hera is great casting, and her part was one of my favorites, aside from Ezra.
Elsbeth was so enjoyable to me too. So I guess I care.
Exactly so. Ezra has such a great arc and so interesting. He became such a unique character it was very fun.
Yep, by the time of Ahsoka Ezra is 29 or 30 years old. He's a grown adult who had to mature into said adulthood without his friends and mentors and became both so very different yet so similar to the teenager we last saw in Rebels.
At the end of the day, "is it making money?" is the only thing that matters in Hollywood, and the simple truth of the matter is the majority of modern Star Wars productions have been pulling in money which is why Kathleen Kennedy gets to keep her job. Your subjective opinion on the quality of these productions does not factor into the equation. From the strictly financial perspective, Solo and The Acolyte are the only failures. And even The Acolyte still managed to be the second highest watched show on Disney+ in 2024 proving that the streaming model itself is what's broken if something can do that well and still be considered a failure.
To me I don't mind Ezra having changed because their is the passage of time. Just that he should have been doing more than just chillin with the Turtle People. He should have been IMO in active resistance to Thrawn. Maybe he has turned the Turtle people into sort of soldiers. Basically doing Jedi stuff because the cartoon was more focused on him becoming a Jedi than Sabine which was like some tossed in idea at the very end of the cartoon. She was always more fun as this wild spirit freedom fighter who likes to tag things with her painting. I would have tossed out Elsbeth and also Anakin and even Hera and bring the focus down to Ahsoka, Sabine,Ahsoka's David Tennant droid,Ezra,Thrawn, Stevenson and protegee.
I mean, according to the actor Ezra's mail shirt is made out of stormtrooper dog tags so he's not been idle.
I didn't care for the training droid but definitely liked how Sabine went in relationship to Ahsoka. At the end of the day, the main reason why I watched the show was Ahsoka and I got that.
And both Iger and one of the writers take the heat for that choice and Solo's failure.
Maybe Ezra had a "Growth Spurt" during his time missing & away.
I do love Ahsoka as well. Loved her in the cartoons and even in her appearances on 'The Mandalorian." I don't know what was going on but they really made her feel boring in her own show. This is one of those things that if they do get a second season I could see them improving on. I love the training droid though. He needs a even bigger role. My two favorite characters on the show was him and Stevenson's aide and of course also Stevenson.
And one of the best parts is: Huyang was also in The Clone Wars. 
And one of the best parts is: Huyang was also in The Clone Wars.
That's cool. I didn't even remember him being in the cartoon.
The thing with some people not liking the stuff that's been coming out during her time is that, people not liking them are not her fault. As far as I understand it, her job is to hire the people to make to project, or at least to give the OK to the people hiring them, and if you look at these people, on paper hiring them is a fantastic idea, almost all of them have come off of popular, successful projects, and look like they'd be a great fit. And really despite what a very vocal minority likes to claim, most of what's been released has been successful, and even the less successful stuff has still done pretty well.
I wonder if part of the problems with Ashoka can be traced to the why filming was done due to COVID restrictions still in place at the time. The other problem might be simply that Ahsoka herself is not in the best frame of mind until after she gets her training with Anakin again. The difference might have been there to exaggerate the change.
Sabine seems to be a ball of frustration when it comes to Ahsoka and Ezra. Sabine clearly wants to do some things, but is not nearly as capably as say Ezra in the Force, and her knowledge of that mixed with her Mandalorian stubbornness is part of what is holding her back. Remember Yoda's teachings to Luke about lifting the X-wing. "Unlearn what you have learned." That Luke didn't believe he could raise the X-wing is why his failed. The Force is a matter of belief and skill. If one believes they can do a thing, they will likely be able to do that thing. "Do or Do not. There is no try" It is a binary state. While you might attempt to do something, what we would call "try", you can only succeed or fail (do or do not). Luke "trying" to lift the X-wing was a do not, because he did not believe he could, therefore he could not. This is why Sabine's Force actions in the last episodes of the series work. She believes she can do these things. She has been trained to do them, just before she wasn't believing and was "trying" too hard. When she needed the Force to work, and didn't try, she did it. Even if it wasn't perfect, like the Force push to Ezra not being quite as much as they wanted. It is not "I am going to pull that cup; I am going to pull that cup" It is "The cup is in my hand" that pulled the cup into one's hand.
Sabine seems to be a ball of frustration when it comes to Ahsoka and Ezra. Sabine clearly wants to do some things, but is not nearly as capably as say Ezra in the Force, and her knowledge of that mixed with her Mandalorian stubbornness is part of what is holding her back. Remember Yoda's teachings to Luke about lifting the X-wing. "Unlearn what you have learned." That Luke didn't believe he could raise the X-wing is why his failed. The Force is a matter of belief and skill. If one believes they can do a thing, they will likely be able to do that thing. "Do or Do not. There is no try" It is a binary state. While you might attempt to do something, what we would call "try", you can only succeed or fail (do or do not). Luke "trying" to lift the X-wing was a do not, because he did not believe he could, therefore he could not. This is why Sabine's Force actions in the last episodes of the series work. She believes she can do these things. She has been trained to do them, just before she wasn't believing and was "trying" too hard. When she needed the Force to work, and didn't try, she did it. Even if it wasn't perfect, like the Force push to Ezra not being quite as much as they wanted. It is not "I am going to pull that cup; I am going to pull that cup" It is "The cup is in my hand" that pulled the cup into one's hand.
Some mistakes though are blaring. Not putting Luke,Leia and Han and the others together again in the Prequels or having a plan for all the movies instead of winging it from one movie to the next was just a bad idea. Throwing out all those Obi-Wan scripts and replacing them with what we got would be another. Leslye Headland is a talented artist. Anyone who has seen "Russian Doll" can see that but I don't think it's hard to figure her sensibilities isn't going to translate well to Star Wars. Same with Rian Johnson. Trying to deconstruct something that relies on a heavy amount of Nostalgia to work is just a bad idea.
I know nostalgia is a bad word to some but it's clearly popular these days and not only that, you are talking about a Franchise that got started in 1977. Some things are just to old to really be truly modern. At best you can hope for is something that feels like a mixture of the familiar but not so much that it no longer feels relevant. That's why The Mandalorian and Rogue One were successful. In Star Trek they still keep playing off the good feels of 'TOS" a Trek show created in the 60's. Except the one time they did a love letter season to TNG which of course was very popular. And it works when you create something like "Strange New World" that creates those same feelings while also being fresh enough to not be dated.
He's already old enough such that growth spurts should be in the rear view mirror.
Well, Luke and Leia did have a scene together in the prequels...Jayson1 said:
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But wasn't he pretty young when he whisked Thrawn away initially?