List of ships in each series?

[Airin]

Has anyone compiled a list of ships ordered by the series in which they appear (either as seen on-screen, or mentioned, or even just listed in a graphic)?
All the lists I've found online are made from an in-universe perspective. That is, conflating info from several sources (including reference books) to achieve some sort of consistency. For example, they list the TOS Enterprise as a "Constitution-class ship", even if TOS never called it as such and that info came later.
I'm more interested in the real-world approach, a list ordered by source, in particular for TOS and TNG.

 

[ChallengerHK]

The James Dixon Fan Chronology was painstakingly, fanatically complete. It included all on-screen references, professional fiction, fan fiction, tech manuals, etc., even when they contradicted one another. I'm not sure of the last time it was updated, though, but I'm sure it doesn't include any streaming Trek.

On a side note, Dixon was a hell of a character, and his flame wars are amusing reading as well.

 

[Dukhat]

Has anyone compiled a list of ships ordered by the series in which they appear (either as seen on-screen, or mentioned, or even just listed in a graphic)?
All the lists I've found online are made from an in-universe perspective. That is, conflating info from several sources (including reference books) to achieve some sort of consistency. For example, they list the TOS Enterprise as a "Constitution-class ship", even if TOS never called it as such and that info came later.
I'm more interested in the real-world approach, a list ordered by source, in particular for TOS and TNG.

Here’s something I once wrote up for TOS. Hope that helps.


Canon TOS starships

“Starship Class” vessels seen on screen:

USS Enterprise NCC-1701

USS Exeter

USS Constellation NCC-1017

USS Defiant

USS Hood

USS Excalibur

USS Lexington

USS Potemkin



Active-duty starships mentioned in dialogue (presumably also Starship Class):

USS Intrepid (NCC-1831?)

USS Yorktown

USS Carolina



Starships mentioned in the past-tense but still possibly on active duty:

USS Republic NCC-1371

USS Farragut



Starships mentioned in the past-tense either lost or destroyed:

USS Archon - lost 100 years before TOS

USS Valiant - lost 50 years before TOS



Other ships:

USS Horizon - operating 100 years before TOS

Antares - destroyed

SS Deirdre - freighter

Class J starship

Woden - ore freighter

SS Beagle - Class 4 stardrive vessel



Commodore Stone’s wall chart:

NCC-1709

NCC-1831 (USS Intrepid?)

NCC-1703

NCC-1672

NCC-1864

NCC-1897

NCC-1718

NCC-1685

NCC-1700

 

[Nerys Myk]

USS Carolina is a new one on me. Learn something new everyday.

 

[Airin]

The James Dixon Fan Chronology was painstakingly, fanatically complete. It included all on-screen references, professional fiction, fan fiction, tech manuals, etc., even when they contradicted one another. I'm not sure of the last time it was updated, though, but I'm sure it doesn't include any streaming Trek.

On a side note, Dixon was a hell of a character, and his flame wars are amusing reading as well.

Wow! That's pretty overkill for my purposes, but I'll take a look. Thank you.

Here’s something I once wrote up for TOS. Hope that helps.


Canon TOS starships

“Starship Class” vessels seen on screen:

USS Enterprise NCC-1701

USS Exeter

USS Constellation NCC-1017

USS Defiant

USS Hood

USS Excalibur

USS Lexington

USS Potemkin



Active-duty starships mentioned in dialogue (presumably also Starship Class):

USS Intrepid (NCC-1831?)

USS Yorktown

USS Carolina



Starships mentioned in the past-tense but still possibly on active duty:

USS Republic NCC-1371

USS Farragut



Starships mentioned in the past-tense either lost or destroyed:

USS Archon - lost 100 years before TOS

USS Valiant - lost 50 years before TOS



Other ships:

USS Horizon - operating 100 years before TOS

Antares - destroyed

SS Deirdre - freighter

Class J starship

Woden - ore freighter

SS Beagle - Class 4 stardrive vessel



Commodore Stone’s wall chart:

NCC-1709

NCC-1831 (USS Intrepid?)

NCC-1703

NCC-1672

NCC-1864

NCC-1897

NCC-1718

NCC-1685

NCC-1700

Thanks, that's very useful. I didn't remember some of these.

 

[ChallengerHK]

Commodore Stone’s wall chart:
NCC-1709
NCC-1831 (USS Intrepid?)
NCC-1703
NCC-1672
NCC-1864
NCC-1897
NCC-1718
NCC-1685
NCC-1700

Irrelevant to the OP's question, but some of these are debatable; 1864 is particularly unclear. I would love it to be 1864, because that would provide answers to some pressing questions, but depending on the day I'm looking at it I can read 4 different numbers in there.

 

[Dukhat]

Irrelevant to the OP's question, but some of these are debatable; 1864 is particularly unclear. I would love it to be 1864, because that would provide answers to some pressing questions, but depending on the day I'm looking at it I can read 4 different numbers in there.

Yes, they are debatable, and have been since 1966. With the advent of HD, the numbers got clearer, but not 100%. The numbers I listed were what I personally see when I look at both an HD screencap and a color-inverted version of same.

 

[ChallengerHK]

Yes, they are debatable, and have been since 1966. With the advent of HD, the numbers got clearer, but not 100%. The numbers I listed were what I personally see when I look at both an HD screencap and a color-inverted version of same.

So have I. The problem with HD is that the upscans introduce digital artifacts. My goal has been to find a clip of that shot from the Lincoln Enterprises film clips and scan it with my negative scanner, but that may still have the same problem.

 

[Dukhat]

So have I. The problem with HD is that the upscans introduce digital artifacts. My goal has been to find a clip of that shot from the Lincoln Enterprises film clips and scan it with my negative scanner, but that may still have the same problem.

Well if you ever do, post your results here. I'd love to see them.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

USS Carolina is a new one on me. Learn something new everyday.

USS Carolina (23rd century)

The USS Carolina was a 23rd century Federation starship operated by Starfleet. In 2267, the Carolina was registered as being in the same sector as Capella IV. A distress signal was ostensibly transmitted by the Carolina to the USS Enterprise. However, as the Enterprise had previously been...

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It was really in the area, but the distress call was not coming from it.

 

[Dukhat]

There's also this early shiplist from TNG:

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I'm not 100% sure it's a legit list made by the production personnel, but Memory Alpha treats it as such. There are a few questionable entries, such as the Oberth class Bonestell being in BoBW, and some of the registries that were changed later. But the list is allegedly up to September 1990.

 

[Tuskin38]

There's also this early shiplist from TNG:

such as the Oberth class Bonestell being in BoBW

I'm guessing there was a wreck of it that was filmed but not used in the final episode

 

[Dukhat]

I'm guessing there was a wreck of it that was filmed but not used in the final episode

The problem is that no actual filming models were used for the scene (other than the wrecked version of the TMP Enterprise from TSFS.) Any version of the Oberth class would have had to be a custom-built wrecked version, and we didn't get anything like that until much later in "Hero Worship" (1992) for the Vico.

There was an Oberth model used in Emissary (the intact version and the Vico version for the battle damage), but that was in 1993.

 

[Tuskin38]

The problem is that no actual filming models were used for the scene (other than the wrecked version of the TMP Enterprise from TSFS.) Any version of the Oberth class would have had to be a custom-built wrecked version, and we didn't get anything like that until much later in "Hero Worship" (1992) for the Vico.

There was an Oberth model used in Emissary (the intact version and the Vico version for the battle damage), but that was in 1993.

The Star Trek Encyclopedia (third edition according to M-A) also incorrectly states that the Bonestell was in TBOBW 2

I'm guessing Mike or Denise consulted that ship list, either not knowing or forgetting it didn't actually appear in the episode.

 

[Dukhat]

The Star Trek Encyclopedia (third edition according to M-A) also incorrectly states that the Bonestell was in TBOBW 2

I'm guessing Mike or Denise consulted that ship list, either not knowing or forgetting it didn't actually appear in the episode.

The Oberth model was probably labeled 'USS Yosemite' when it was used for "Emissary" ("Realm of Fear" was only filmed a few months before the episode), and the Vico model was probably substituted for the destroyed version. Either way, the ship in Emissary wouldn't actually have been the Yosemite, as Realm of Fear takes place after the Wolf 359 battle. So the Oberth seen in Emissary should remain nameless.

So where did the Oberth class 'USS Bonestell" come from? According to this list, the name was created years before Emissary, so it can't be the ship in that episode. But the Grissom model was not relabeled with that name or used in BoBW, as far as anyone knows. The only possible way it could have existed was if Greg Jein made a new model of it from the mold he would eventually use to make the Vico, and he never made a statement to that effect. He did state that he made a one-nacelled ship (the Firebrand) and a three-nacelled ship (the Princeton) for BoBW, but says nothing about making a Grissom-type ship.

 

[Airin]

A related question: where do all those starship classes come from?
Some of them are obvious, like the Enterprise-D, which is often referred to as a Galaxy Class in the series. But there are other, more obscure ones, that I have no idea. The Miranda-class from TWOK, for example, or the Romulan Warbird from "Balance of Terror". I don't think they were ever described as such in the script. Were those classes a fandom convention that was incorporated later into canon?

 

[Nerys Myk]

A related question: where do all those starship classes come from?
Some of them are obvious, like the Enterprise-D, which is often referred to as a Galaxy Class in the series. But there are other, more obscure ones, that I have no idea. The Miranda-class from TWOK, for example, or the Romulan Warbird from "Balance of Terror". I don't think they were ever described as such in the script. Were those classes a fandom convention that was incorporated later into canon?

MA on the Miranda

The name Miranda-class was not mentioned in dialogue on-screen but was devised by the art department of Star Trek: The Next Generation to refer to this design. The name was used on several pieces of on-screen signage referring to these vessels and was also used by dedicated references such as the Star Trek Encyclopedia, 1st ed., p. 32.

The ship in Balance of Terror is usually called a "Bird of Prey." Based on this piece of dialog

KIRK: Both these outposts and this vessel will be considered expendable. Captain out.
STILES: We know Outpost four has been attacked, sir, so if we intercept Romulans now
KIRK: After a whole century, what will a Romulan ship look like, Mister Stiles? I doubt they'll radio and identify themselves.
STILES: You'll know, sir. They're painted like a giant bird-of-prey.

Not sure when "Bird of Prey" became formalized. But the model kits from the Seventies use the term. Maybe the licensing people?

 

[Dukhat]

Not sure when "Bird of Prey" became formalized. But the model kits from the Seventies use the term. Maybe the licensing people?

From TSFS, in reference to the Klingon ship. It was a carryover from when the ship was originally a Romulan Bird of Prey before the decision was made to make the antagonists Klingons.

 

[Nerys Myk]

From TSFS, in reference to the Klingon ship. It was a carryover from when the ship was originally a Romulan Bird of Prey before the decision was made to make the antagonists Klingons.

Yep. Just wondering if it pops up in official/semi-official places before that.

 

[Airin]

Cushman's "These Are the Voyages: TOS Season Three" reproduces an excerpt from the newsletter "Inside Star Trek, issue 2" (1968). D.C. Fontana refers to the Klingon ships first seen in this season as vessels that resemble a "bird of prey":

Matt Jefferies informs us it took him about a month to get his ideas “squared away” on the design and another month to get the drawings out for AMT [Modeling Corporation]. All this was done on his own time, beyond his normal work on Star Trek, but the resulting unique and graceful design of the battle cruiser was well worth the extra effort. In shape, the vessel appears much like a large bird of prey in flight and is distinctly different from the saucer-and-nacelle configuration of the Enterprise. The control room, or bridge, is in the top-front of the bird-like “head.” This forward area also contains quarters, labs, and armament control. On the underside of this area facing forward is a combined sensor-weapon device. Heavy weapons are also mounted in the housing in front of the dual power pods. The vast wing-like section is used for storage, fuel, power source, environmental control units, etc.​

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So it seems that "Bird-of-Prey" was somehow used both for Klingon ships and Romulan ships even before TSFS.