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Eric Stoltz made me understand the tragedy of the ending of Back to the Future and the inhumanity of the American Dream

For all the "eat the rich" types in this thread, I'll just put this out there....

Obviously the McFly home has to look different in the new timeline vs. the old one. Otherwise viewers would be scratching their heads wondering why Marty (apparently) didn't make a difference.

Isn't this the easiest way to do that? :shrug:
I think it could be argued whether changing the look of the home is easier or harder than changing the performances and appearances of the actors, but doing one without doing the other might seem strange.

Your first sentence seems needlessly antagonistic though.
 
Or you make "The Family Man" and go through that process too.
The mystical being in that movie did not seem that benevolent. TFM was not "It's a Wonderful Life", it was "It Could Have Been a Wonderful Life, But you Pretty Much Blew It Years Ago".

I actually did a parody of the movie based on that supposition, a couple of decades ago.
 
the movie tells us that all this is perfectly okay why? Because now Marty has a nicer house, he has a new car, he has so many things. Marty has lost his whole life but in exchange he has so many new material goods. And this is the essence of the American Dream, as long as you have things (goods, money, power, fame), everything else (love, family, beliefs) can be sacrificed.

(I think that even Crispin Glover - who played Marty's dad, was very critical about the movie message: money and financial success = happiness)

So very Eighties ... :shifty:
 
And how many families/parents would end up divorcing towards the end of the eighties/early nineties because the 'Keeping up with the Jones' mentality put a strain on the couple's marriage? I know my parents did in July of 1992. They announced they were getting divorced on my brother's 21st birthday.​
 
I've often heard the criticism of the ending being too overtly materialistic, and honestly I don't really agree with it. Indeed I think it ironically betrays a rather shallow, superficial way of thinking.

Marty's family isn't happy because "now they have a BMW". They're happy because 30 years ago, George learned his own self worth and stood up for himself. He gained the confidence to put himself out there and pursue his creative passions. That made him a more emotionally present, and supportive husband and father, as well as a more positive role model for his sons. Lorraine consequently didn't get dragged down by 30 years of watching the person she loved get kicked around and do nothing to stop it, leaving her to fixate on a toxic sense of nostalgia (and booze) to keep going. Marty's siblings consequently didn't turn out to be so cynical and self-involved, because they had supportive parents and learned to look out for each other too.

Yes, the house is nicer, they're financially more well off, but those things came from what made them happy, not the other way around. It's still the same house after all; it's not like they're suddenly living in a mansion. They're just living more comfortably within their means (and the BMW is probably just a company car.) It should also be noted that George isn't some jet-setting successful author; we literally see his *first* novel get delivered. It's taken him 30 years of hard work to get to where he is, and he's just now getting to the point of realising his dream.

Indeed one of the first things we learn about George at the start of the movie is that he's a hard worker and *good* at his job. How do we know this? Because we learn that not only is he doing his job, but Biff's job for him too, likely with Biff taking credit for all of George's work, thus keeping him in a subordinate position. This George never learned to stand up for himself and so he toiled away under the thumb of his highschool bully. Once free of Biff, it's easy to see why he's able to surpass him in every way, and more to the point, why Biff isn't working at the same company, but working as an independent trader; he can't actually do the job in the original timeline without George doing it for him.

So while it's easy to look at that final scene and declare "it's entirely materialistic!", it's perhaps not a very insightful takeaway. Yes they have nicer stuff, but that's just a visual shorthand, nothing more.

As for Stoltz's assessment of the finale; he's honestly not wrong, and if this movie had a more down-to-earth, gritty tone, then that's absolutely the way to go. But it's not trying to be that kind of movie; it's something of a fairytale. The resolution to the final conflict is literally love's first kiss! I'm not sure how they could have been more explicit as to the tone and themes here.
 
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Indeed one of the first things we learn about George at the start of the movie is that he's a hard worker and *good* at his job. How do we know this? Because we learn that not only is he doing his job, but Biff's job for him too, likely with Biff taking credit for all of George's work, thus keeping him in a subordinate position. This George never learned to stand up for himself and so he toiled away under the thumb of his highschool bully. Once free of Biff, it's easy to see why he's able to surpass him in every way, and more to the point, why Biff isn't working at the same company, but working as an independent trader; he can't actually do the job in the original timeline without George doing it for him.
Oh! I cannot like this enough!

I'm starting to think MORE of the ending of this film rather than less!
 
My father ran his own business for 20+ years, throughout the eighties and nineties, and he was always encouraging his employees to pursue their dreams/passions and not get stuck in a '9 to 5' job; do what made them happy, and many did. They would go to my Dad and say, "I've got this idea," and Dad would work with them on figuring out the best way to achieve that dream/goal, vouching for them at the bank when they needed a loan, etc. One opened a yoga studio, another a clothing boutique, another a janitorial company. At my father's funeral, they would come up to my brother and I and his siblings and tell us about how my Dad encouraged them and gave them that push that they might not have taken otherwise. And they were all happy doing something they loved. Any wealth was an added bonus.​
 
Because they have more money.

Yep.

Tennis = wealth in films usually includes memberships at tennis clubs (and the “tennis outfits” along with expensive gear—fancy bag, multiple rackets, etc.) rather than simply playing on free public courts. That’s how it became a visual shorthand for “well off”.

Indeed.

At this point I think there is some cultural problem of reference. Unless in the 80s it was considered absolutely middle class to have a new BMW and give a Toyota Pickup to a high school student.

No, it was not typically middle class to have a new BMW and Toyota Pickup. Back to the Future's alternate reality future used status symbols of higher-income earners to say Marty's life was "better" than the original reality. George could have been a confident man without material wealth, but again, 1980s.
 
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Okay then, the families of Woodinville must have been the exception to the rule, because many of us had three/four cars - one was the luxury car (usually a Mercedes, BMW or other European brand like Porsche) which Dad drove, there was the 'family' car (Toyota or Honda) that Mom drove, then there was the one that the kids drove, usually the 'hand me down'. Some families owned a pick up or a Suburban. But none of us lived in big luxury houses, although we did have nice yards, and two or three had 'sport courts'; and I don't think any of us considered ourselves rich. Too many of us, a sign of wealth was if your family went to 'Disney World'/Florida instead of 'Disneyland'/California for vacation, because that meant you could afford to fly across the United States and stay at a resort instead of quick hop down to Los Angeles for a few days.​
 
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Just looked it up: "In 1985 a Walkman cost between $69 and $99, which translates to between $168 and $241 in today's dollars."

Pricey toy for pre-rich Marty to have.
 
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