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Spoilers STAR TREK: SECTION 31 - Grading & Discussion

Rate the movie...

  • 10 - Excellent!

    Votes: 4 1.7%
  • 9

    Votes: 6 2.5%
  • 8

    Votes: 11 4.6%
  • 7

    Votes: 20 8.4%
  • 6

    Votes: 31 13.1%
  • 5

    Votes: 36 15.2%
  • 4

    Votes: 16 6.8%
  • 3

    Votes: 26 11.0%
  • 2

    Votes: 27 11.4%
  • 1 - Terrible!

    Votes: 60 25.3%

  • Total voters
    237
The thing is that fewer people actually want to go back to that scheduled programming format unless it's a live event like sports (and even they are starting to be snatched by streamers, with Netflix now streaming NFL and WWE events)
It's on them to retain viewership.

Otherwise, their business model will fully collapse if they can't maintain content that people will want to watch.
 
It's always limited, and that share of the pie is getting divided into ever more different directions as time goes on with more options.
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They had an on-fire actress to star in their project. This could’ve been a show piece for Paramount+ and the Star Trek franchise. Instead they were fine with what they put out there. They disrespected the fans, the actors and themselves allowing this to make it to the screen.

I suppose anything is possible with an infinite amount of time and an infinite amount of money (two things P+ did not have).
 
How can the old broadcast networks compete when Netflix has all the money to buy up everything that kept broadcasting afloat?
Either stop making traditional Over-the-Air Antennas difficult / expensive and promote them to everybody to get for their TV's. Even if they don't have Cable TV / Streaming.

ATSC 3.0 is coming, and it should be in everybody's home who has a TV unit.
 
Then I’m glad it got turned into a movie. Picard and discovery show what happens when too little plot has to be stretched for too many episodes.
Yes. Pic season 2 could easily have been a movie. So could Disco season 4. So much padding in those seasons.

Imagine how much S31 would have dragged if it was ten episodes. The story was too thin for a whole season
 
Well, I'm 41 and I do want my favorite franchises to have lots of kids toys, because that's a sign of a healthy and growing property. My 3 year old put on his jumpsuit and goggles last week and started "fixing" his proton pack on the dining room table. Trek should be so lucky.
Different strokes for different folks. I don't mind Trek being kid-friendly, and I liked Prodigy, but I prefer Star Trek in general being targeted to teens and adults.

I stopped playing with toys when I was 11. Adults who collect them, it's something I never got. Even though my brother's a collector.

Worf: "He plays with toys."
Ezri: "It's a model."

I'm with Worf. But I understand everyone has their own different thing.
 
Either stop making traditional Over-the-Air Antennas difficult / expensive and promote them to everybody to get for their TV's. Even if they don't have Cable TV / Streaming.

ATSC 3.0 is coming, and it should be in everybody's home who has a TV unit.

I don't think there's anything about antenna TVs that can attract the target demographic.

In fact I know people of my generation who would rather pay for streaming than actually sit through programmed shows riddled with ads.
 
Well, I'm 41 and I do want my favorite franchises to have lots of kids toys, because that's a sign of a healthy and growing property. My 3 year old put on his jumpsuit and goggles last week and started "fixing" his proton pack on the dining room table. Trek should be so lucky.
Indeed

My kids enjoy pretend play and figures. I enjoy it because I get to see their imagination. I bought Trek toys even when I didn't like the show.
 
I don't think there's anything about antenna TVs that can attract the target demographic.

In fact I know people of my generation who would rather pay for streaming than actually sit through programmed shows riddled with ads.
It's a 1-time cost for the Antenna's & Decoder Box.

After that, you get indefinite free OTA Digital Broadcasts of shows.

The ads are no different than current day BroadCast TV ads.

If they can't stand those, than I don't know what to say; do they pay for NetFlix tier w/o ads and only rely on those?

Cause all the content is split amongst all the various streaming services.

There's no (1-stop shop).

And I think if we're honest, short of a real Universal IPTV Digital Store where every TV Show/Series/Movie is A-La-Carte and nothing is free w/o Ads & you pay on a specific content piece or pay for a series, then there is no practical way to avoid ads.

I know that WWE Live Streaming RAW, even with the Ad-Free tier of Netflix, will serve you ads.

So some Ads are un-avoidable.
 
Different strokes for different folks. I don't mind Trek being kid-friendly, and I liked Prodigy, but I prefer Star Trek in general being targeted to teens and adults.

I stopped playing with toys when I was 11. Adults who collect them, it's something I never got. Even though my brother's a collector.

Worf: "He plays with toys."
Ezri: "It's a model."

I'm with Worf. But I understand everyone has their own different thing.
For a long time, I thought figures were just for kids to play with by hopping them around and speaking their lines :D
Then I realized you can also use them to recreate scenes and display them, like statues or monuments of your favorite scenes, episodes, characters, alien designs, or even costumes.
Many ships, figures, and props also simply look good, and I'd rather have good looking Trek things spread around my room than something generic and less meaningful to me ;)
 
It's a 1-time cost for the Antenna's & Decoder Box.

After that, you get indefinite free OTA Digital Broadcasts of shows.

The ads are no different than current day BroadCast TV ads.

If they can't stand those, than I don't know what to say; do they pay for NetFlix tier w/o ads and only rely on those?

Cause all the content is split amongst all the various streaming services.

There's no (1-stop shop).

And I think if we're honest, short of a real Universal IPTV Digital Store where every TV Show/Series/Movie is A-La-Carte and nothing is free w/o Ads & you pay on a specific content piece or pay for a series, then there is no practical way to avoid ads.

I know that WWE Live Streaming RAW, even with the Ad-Free tier of Netflix, will serve you ads.

So some Ads are un-avoidable.

Again, how is any of that supposed to entice younger viewers, especially when all the hyped shows are going to streaming? I don’t think a college aged person is excited for the Matlock and Night Court reboots.
 
Again, how is any of that supposed to entice younger viewers, especially when all the hyped shows are going to streaming? I don’t think a college aged person is excited for the Matlock and Night Court reboots.
Then it's up to the TV networks to find a way to bring in the shows that college aged people and younger want to watch.

That's on them, it has been since the dawn of BroadCast TV.

That was no different back in the day, the only difference now is the amount of viewers who have "Cut-the-Cord" from Cable/Satellite TV.

That means Streaming has replaced Cable/Satellite TV.

But Broadcast TV is still the same, regardless of Cable TV / Streaming.

Cable TV's failure was the refusal to go to the A-La-Carte TV Channel model.
They insisted on selling "Packages", regardless of how the customer felt.
Guess what, Streaming took their customers with "A-La-Carte".

Eventually, a Universal IPTV system where you pay for individual shows / series / movies will replace all the streaming services once it's built and offers the customer "Absolute Control" over how they watch, what they spend, and have EVERY piece of content possible on it. The hard part is getting all the content owners to sign aboard a IPTV system and make them believe in the "A-La-Carte" model.
 
Wait Fuzz was an actor in a mask? I had assumed he was CGI.



Which is the same background they used for the TNG MU comics. I wonder if they did that on purpose or if it's a coincidence? I think someone said they used the same combadge design on Prodigy that was introduced in the comics, so it might be on purpose.

Memory Alpha just says 2270s, but Beta specifically puts it in 2273.

None of those are any worse than anything we got in TOS to ENT. Hell when TOS began Spock was Vulcanian and there was no Federation yet. People like to overlook them, but there were tons of constant condrictions from one show to another or even within one show.
Just look at how differently Trills were presented in TNG and the early episodes of DS9 versus how they are portrayed from the later part of DS9 forward.
They have gone against a lot of fanon assumptions, but there really have not been the kind of major contradictions that a lot of people like to claim there are.

No those are minor when the show was still maturing. Discovery went out of its way to change stuff. Continuity errors happen in every show even minor retcons. Star Trek is probably the worst. Star wars does a much better job of maintaining it. Both in story and visual. Star Trek has been all over the place the last 16 years.
 
Picard S2 was upended by the Covid-19 lockdowns.

A lot had to be tossed out due to the Covid restrictions.
Meh, season 1 and 3 could have been much tighter as well. Not to mention discovery season 3, 5 and especially 4.

By the way, the Orville season 3 was also hit by covid AND by having the episodes runtimes extended and the first few episodes really betray this.
 
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