Spoilers STAR TREK: SECTION 31 - Grading & Discussion

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Seasons were only longer due to wanting to build up a syndication package to sell to affiliates down the line. That's not really a priority anymore because streaming is a completely different system. Broadcasting NEEDS content to air at all times, whereas streaming is just an on demand function.

True, but Streaming also benefits from new releases based on Broadcast TV.

And I don't think Broadcast TV will ever go away, it'll still exist like Radio has.

We can be like "The French" and have regulated priority order with Broadcast getting initial release, then Streaming can be "Next Day", etc.

 

[Yistaan]

Meanwhile I'm watching 天龍八部, (Demi-Gods and Semi-Devils) imported from China on Amazon Prime, it has FIFTY episodes and was made relatively recently (2021). Western shows can only dream of having that many episodes these days.

 

[HotRod]

What's the source of the alien design pics?

 

[NCC-73515]

Ah, locked behind instagram

 

[MakeshiftPython]

True, but Streaming also benefits from new releases based on Broadcast TV.

And I don't think Broadcast TV will ever go away, it'll still exist like Radio has.

We can be like "The French" and have regulated priority order with Broadcast getting initial release, then Streaming can be "Next Day", etc.

Given how the viewing habits of younger generations have radically changed, I'll be very surprised if we don't see broadcast television decline even further. Streaming has already overtaken broadcasting just a few years ago. Even radio is struggling. Gen Z and beyond have basically been trained to go on apps for their music and visual media.

Just looking at what broadcast television is today compared to what it used to be in the 90s and 2000s, it's kind of sad. I don't think there's anything currently airing that's a cultural juggernaut, because that has all migrated into streaming. Terrestrial television is now just a funeral dirge accompanied by reality tv, procedural and medical dramas.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Given how the viewing habits of younger generations have radically changed, I'll be very surprised if we don't see broadcast television decline even further. Streaming has already overtaken broadcasting just a few years ago. Even radio is struggling. Gen Z and beyond have basically been trained to go on apps for their music and visual media.

Just looking at what broadcast television is today compared to what it used to be in the 90s and 2000s, it's kind of sad. I don't think there's anything currently airing that's a cultural juggernaut, because that has all migrated into streaming. Terrestrial television is now just a funeral dirge accompanied by reality tv, procedural and medical dramas.

That's the sad part.

But also, there are FAR more entertainment options today then there were in the 1990's or 2000's.

Video Games, Board Games, VR, Outdoors, Sports.

The amount of entertainment choices has sky rocketed.

There is only ___ amount of time in a persons day to consume content, and you're always fighting other mediums for very short attention spans.

Part of what BroadCast / Cable TV needs to do is band together as a medium and work together to help each other through these tough times.

Don't let their content be trivially released onto Streaming right away, enforce a limited exclusivity window before it appears on Streaming.

Otherwise, their value add will really become extinct.

 

[fireproof78]

I still listen to radio and watch broadcast TV.

My kids enjoy it from time to time.

We feel no sadness over it.

 

[Fateor]

Given how the viewing habits of younger generations have radically changed, I'll be very surprised if we don't see broadcast television decline even further. Streaming has already overtaken broadcasting just a few years ago. Even radio is struggling. Gen Z and beyond have basically been trained to go on apps for their music and visual media.

Just looking at what broadcast television is today compared to what it used to be in the 90s and 2000s, it's kind of sad. I don't think there's anything currently airing that's a cultural juggernaut, because that has all migrated into streaming. Terrestrial television is now just a funeral dirge accompanied by reality tv, procedural and medical dramas.

Habits can change all they want, but streaming's running into the problem that in a lot of cases it's just straight up not profitable to the networks.

 

[TRON JA307020]

And how many times does a coworker you're close to openly acknowledge something in front of all your fellow coworkers and friends? Sure, you used to be romantically involved with them but unless they're of a complete blabbermouth personality why would they bring up every little factoid about what you and they did, say, eight years earlier?

AND IN THE WORKPLACE??

Even when they were by themselves they acted like strangers. Look I like snw but ss a reboot not as a prequel. It doesn't work. Instead of bringing characters from the cage like yeoman colt they decided to bring in a ton of characters from kirks enterprise. So now they have to try and stick with canon. They aren't doing a good job. Also theres a Khan on board. Just badly done. I hope they separate this kurtzman trek from original trek one day.

 

[Danja]

Given how the viewing habits of younger generations have radically changed, I'll be very surprised if we don't see broadcast television decline even further.

Broadcast TV audiences have been declining for decades.

 

[Citiprime]

I don't think movies are as HUGE anymore in the cultural zeitgeist as they were pre-COVID either.

Arguably, most movies are seen in streaming, and the culturally defining dramas that people talk about tend not to be movies anymore. There are some exceptions (e.g., Oppenheimer, Wicked, Dune, etc.), but I would argue in the past decade television dramas have been more impactful culturally than most serious dramatic movies.

In the last 4 years, unless it's a kids' movie, a superhero movie, or something with legacy IP, it probably didn't make a ton in theaters. You're probably not going to have seen it in theaters. And even some of the material that has been for sure money-makers that were guaranteed to get a crowd out to a theater are now kind of iffy (e.g., the MCU films).

 

[Nerys Myk]

Even when they were by themselves they acted like strangers. Look I like snw but ss a reboot not as a prequel. It doesn't work. Instead of bringing characters from the cage like yeoman colt they decided to bring in a ton of characters from kirks enterprise. So now they have to try and stick with canon. They aren't doing a good job. Also theres a Khan on board. Just badly done. I hope they separate this kurtzman trek from original trek one day.

They act like co-workers with a history. Christine has feelings for Spock. Spock knows this and keeps his interactions professional. They do not treat each other as strangers.

Actually, there's a Singh on board, well a Noonien-Singh to be exact. Someone centuries removed from Khan Noonien-Singh. Why is this a problem? The only one bothered by this is La'An. Kirk, Spock and Uhura won't meet Khan for several years. So it's unlikely to come up. If it came up when Khan was aboard, we didn't see it, but that doesn't mean it didn't. I think he was on board longer than the fifty minutes seen. (well actually less as he wasn't in every scene).

 

[cooleddie74]

There was also at least one Singh on Kirk's Enterprise during TOS, an officer or technician in the lab where Nomad was studying computer records. Unless La'an told everyone outside the senior staff she was a distant descendant of the Khan of the Eugenics Wars, why would most people make the connection? Controversial professor Ward Churchill wasn't related to Sir Winston nor was he even British, so aside from the same surname there's no tangible connection that would lead nosey crewmembers to pry into her business or launch investigations.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Broadcast TV audiences have been declining for decades.

It doesn't help that the amount of things fighting for a persons Attention/$$$ is only growing.

Movies (Theater / Physical Media/ Digital Media / Streaming)
Music (LIVE / Radio / Physical Media / Digital Media / Streaming)
TV (Broadcast / Cable/ Physical Media / Digital Media / Streaming)
Video Games (Console / PC / Mobile / Streaming)
Board Games (Physical / Digital)
Sports (Watching / Playing)
Outdoor Activities
Arts & Crafts
etc.

The list is nearly endless, if it can be a hobby, somebody out there will partake in it.

The fact is that there is a "Finite amount" of Time & $$$ that a person can spend on Entertainment.

It's always limited, and that share of the pie is getting divided into ever more different directions as time goes on with more options.

 

[UssGlenn]

Data did say traditional TV didn't last long after 2040. That's seems just about right. How long until the Government reclaims those frequencies for more useful things?

 

[Firebird]

Maybe Hollywood needs to work on fixing this.

Actors & Talent salary being too excessive compared to what normal people make.

That might be a "Hot Take", but I don't think the acting staff or directing staff are worth the asking price that they ask for.

This has been a problem ever since 20th Century-Fox agreed to pay Elizabeth Taylor $1,000,000 to play the title role in Cleopatra in 1959. It won't end anytime soon.

Part of what BroadCast / Cable TV needs to do is band together as a medium and work together to help each other through these tough times.

Don't let their content be trivially released onto Streaming right away, enforce a limited exclusivity window before it appears on Streaming.

Otherwise, their value add will really become extinct.

You do realize that the same corporate entities own both the broadcast channels and streaming services, right? Netflix is the only one that is a separate monster.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

Don't let their content be trivially released onto Streaming right away, enforce a limited exclusivity window before it appears on Streaming.

Otherwise, their value add will really become extinct.

The thing is that fewer people actually want to go back to that scheduled programming format unless it's a live event like sports (and even they are starting to be snatched by streamers, with Netflix now streaming NFL and WWE events)

 

[BillJ]

I guess my final words on this would be bitter disappointment.

They had an on-fire actress to star in their project. This could’ve been a show piece for Paramount+ and the Star Trek franchise. Instead they were fine with what they put out there. They disrespected the fans, the actors and themselves allowing this to make it to the screen.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

You do realize that the same corporate entities own both the broadcast channels and streaming services, right? Netflix is the only one that is a separate monster.

And you do know that the "Other Streaming Services" that are owned by the BroadCast channels are getting clobbered by Netflix right?

 

[fireproof78]

They disrespected the fans, the actors and themselves allowing this to make it to the screen.