Spoilers STAR TREK: SECTION 31 - Grading & Discussion
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Not entirely true. Craig Sweeney was the showrunner and he consolidated and condensed the 10 episodes into a 90-minute script.
At the beginning (right before Jamie Lee Curtis says "This is Control") and the end of the briefing you can hear a variation of the Borg theme music (Horns) from First Contact.
And "Control" as a code name for the person in charge or AI of a super secret black ops organization. Where did we hear that before?
We do not recognize “STE” retcons as canon.
Mirror Universe was Season 1, Pike and the Talosians was Season 2, and the Guardian of Forever was Season 3. Season 2 also used footage from 'The Cage' in a Previously On Star Trek segment.
Both seasons 3 and Season 5 used footage from TNG as in-universe footage.
A lot better than thd junk kurtzman is doing. They cant even get the uniforms straight or the view screen right.
They’re not looking to get them “right.” Rather to reinterpret them.
Ah ok. The seasons are so short it just feels like it was all at once.
Watched it once and although I am trying to get myself to watch it again to try and find some positives, I neither want to watch it again nor can I think of many positives. Gave it a 2.
Story was not that imaginative, some of the action pieces didn't work (one has been brought up in a number of reviews and for Star Trek was inexcusable), the story behind Georgiou becoming Emperor doesn't quite fit to how the Empire works and the goal of the device that had to be retrieved makes no sense. Those were only a few of the disappointments I saw.
Not sure why Garrett was left in this when it was made into a movie, other than to get fans to watch and see a future Enterprise Captain in a time period we know little about.
If some stories are true that some of the push to make this was because Michelle Yeoh wanted to do it, then there should now be a ban on any vanity projects for Star Trek being done ever again. Stewart's insistence on how to go about the first couple seasons of Picard and this should be a lesson to everyone involved that maybe get a good story first and tell all actors involved that no compromises in that to feed their egos.
I honestly don't think I've ever had a time where I've felt no desire to do another viewing of something with Star Trek until now.
Story was not that imaginative, some of the action pieces didn't work (one has been brought up in a number of reviews and for Star Trek was inexcusable), the story behind Georgiou becoming Emperor doesn't quite fit to how the Empire works and the goal of the device that had to be retrieved makes no sense. Those were only a few of the disappointments I saw.
Not sure why Garrett was left in this when it was made into a movie, other than to get fans to watch and see a future Enterprise Captain in a time period we know little about.
If some stories are true that some of the push to make this was because Michelle Yeoh wanted to do it, then there should now be a ban on any vanity projects for Star Trek being done ever again. Stewart's insistence on how to go about the first couple seasons of Picard and this should be a lesson to everyone involved that maybe get a good story first and tell all actors involved that no compromises in that to feed their egos.
I honestly don't think I've ever had a time where I've felt no desire to do another viewing of something with Star Trek until now.
I don't understand what's so hard to grasp. I'm sure if the Discovery team had done that, there would've been zero complaints.
But, as I've said before, what's done is done. Life goes on, so does the franchise.
I've tried the Alien and Star Wars angle before, and it always hits a brick wall. I guarantee that modern audiences wouldn't have cared if the TOS look was recreated and refreshed. Trek fans often put the show on pedestal, demanding that it must be updated to maintain a true vision of the future, but the reality is that it is viewed no less differently to Alien and Star Wars from outside the community. It's just some sci-fi thing that sometimes has good episodes and films.
(Check out the new Alien:Earth teaser, when you have a chance)
I'm trying my hardest, and it's kept me going so far. It would've been sad to watch Better Call Saul and not believe Breaking Bad came next. I'm the oddball of the group, i know, but i can already see a vast difference between the tech in Discovery vs Strange New Worlds. It feels like a midpoint, if you squint enough.
Marks for effort.
Because it's not about right but expression.
Almost like art is involved.
Theyre looking to put their own stamp on it to make star trek their creation. Its not. If they wanted a remake stsr trek they should have made a new sandbox instead of trying to shoehorn their vision into a previous one. They wont stop their "reinterpret" which is why we get garbage like std and s32.
Is this when I bring up the bridge rotation angle?
“I don’t like it, it makes me feel icky” is not an argument. It’s an opinion.
Sorry, what is STE?
John Eaves designed multiple variations to give the Discovery production team choices. Some of those choices would have been much closer to the TOS design.
Per TrekMovie.com, the decision to sweep the nacelle pylons back to mimic the TMP Enterprise was inserted by the VFX team when they were building the CGI model.
IIRC, Eaves and his team envisaged it slowly being refitted/retrofitted into Kirk's ship over time. Not that I think that anyone will adhere to that concept, but it's the thought that counts.John Eaves designed multiple variations to give the Discovery production team choices. Some of those choices would have been much closer to the TOS design.
Per TrekMovie.com, the decision to sweep the nacelle pylons back to mimic the TMP Enterprise was inserted by the VFX team when they were building the CGI model.
