It's amazing how some people double, triple and quadruple down on being wrong.
Spoilers The Controversial Star Wars Opinion Thread
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It's a fictional universe, how you write the rules of it is up to the writing staff and current IP holders.
If the new IP holders want to change the rules, that's on them.
I have no problem with it, but some people will be upset if it changes from the current paradigm.
But hey, I don't like the current paradigm or agree with it.
So I'm a heretic in your eyes.
I like EU content and enjoy it, so apparently that's sacrilege to some.
Especially since I view both the Jedi & Sith in a different interpretation than what you guys view as "The Correct Way" to view them.
Since time travel isn't a thing in the Star Wars universe, that's a moot matter altogether.
Not necessarilly, for a Force User, there is "The World Between Worlds". That is confirmed to have the ability to let a Force User travel to the past if they desire to.
Ahsoka paid a visit to that place in Live Action.
And it's been protrayed in the Animated Star Wars franchise as well.
So the option is there if they decide to use that concept in the future.
Considering Ahsoka was against altering the past when she and Ezra were in the World Between Worlds, it seems pretty clear it will never be used in that way. And just as well, too. Star Wars is not that kind of franchise. Nor should it be.
KamenRiderBlade said:
Is that like when you levitate wonton soup?
Side-specific powers exist. Force lightning is a dark side power. You have to use the dark side to produce it. That's why right after saying "that power came from me" Rey's talking about sitting on the Sith throne. It's not exactly a non sequitur.KamenRiderBlade said:
Rey doesn't break any new ground in terms of dark side use. She's a traditional Jedi in that regard, not some "new" kind of Jedi.KamenRiderBlade said:
Well... there is a kind of time travel, but it doesn't appear in the films. (At least not yet.)The Wormhole said:
But isn't altering the past what Ezra did there?The Wormhole said:
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Well, it's kind of like sports. If you change the rules enough eventually it ceases to be what it was originally and created the draw in the first place.
Star Wars has gone through some changes but it has not moved away from the good/evil paradigm when it comes to the Force.
Obviously, stories can be told outside of that and were, given the Holiday Special, and various cartoons. But the core concept remains intact.
For those desiring a different paradigm I would encourage creating their own world. Certainly that is a very Lucas thing to do.
Is there anywhere in the movies where the words “Light Side” are even used in the same manner as “Dark Side” is all the time? Even the near misses I can think of (Luke asking about telling “the good from the bad” when Yoda warned him about the Dark Side, Kyle Ren whining about feeling the call of the light) come from novices or people invested in casting the Jedi as the equal and opposite of the Sith, no different except in esoteric matters of dogma.
The Mortis stuff makes for a bit of a jumble, but in general, it’s “the Force” and “the Dark Side of the Force,” no “Light Side” to be seen. It’d be like saying the Dr. Jekyll must have had a third, good person to go with Mr. Hyde. Sometimes it’s not “good and bad,” it’s “normal and bad.”
So are we to think Luke is completely wrong about the existence of sides of the Force, and Yoda and Ben simply choose not to correct him for some reason?
So continue the EU is what you're infering to.
Then what do you suggest while still staying within the Star Wars Universe?
Because we all know everyone speaks with perfect precision all the time, yes? We never use terms out of context, or inappropriately, or misspeak or anything. Everything people say must be taken at absolute literal truth, yes?
A video game.
You mean like KotOR (Knights of the Old Republic)
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order
Star Wars Jedi: Survivor
You don't like the EU novels or any of the legends novels?
Whether or not the sides of the Force even exist at all would seem to be a fairly important distinction, one that alleged Jedi instructors would presumably want to weigh in on. Yet nobody ever takes the opportunity to correct Luke on this point, and the films somehow manage to avoid providing any evidence at all for the revisionist "Luke was wrong" narrative. Why? Because Luke's dialogue is consistent with what Lucas has said and written about the Force.
Sure, those could work. Not as big of a fan of Knights of the Old Republic. But, I know it's popular.
Never said that at all.
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