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Blake's 7 on Blu-ray!

Not only does this give the episode a tad more focus, but it makes Blake's actions at the end a little less cold blooded and petty (as Christopher rightly noted).

I'm not sure I'd called it petty. They were prepared to let a colony/planetary population starve and die (so many 1000s dead) and I don't think he'd have been prepared to let them get away (even if they didn't have device).

And we know that Blake could be cold blooded and ruthless - as we saw into the later part of series B and in series A with Breakdown.
 
Both Mission to Destiny and Time Squad, along with a couple of other examples as the series goes on, shows an almost schizophrenic attitude on behalf of the crew, especially Jenna. She is the expert amongst the crew and flits between "Ah the old ship in distress, a classic pirate move" and "They must be in trouble, there's no other explanation!"

I don't see a contradiction. In "Time Squad," she advised that it could be a trap, but they had no way of knowing for sure, so it would've been cowardly to run away from what might be a genuine distress signal just because of their unconfirmed fears. She was just advising proceeding with caution. Indeed, Blake's very next line was "Well then, we'll have to be careful."

In the case of "Mission," the ship wasn't sending out a distress signal; it was only by luck (and the Liberator's superior sensors, presumably) that they spotted it at all. That made it unlikely to be a trap to lure someone in. Presumably it was that, and her expert analysis of its movement over several minutes, that led her to the educated conclusion that its distress was genuine. Blake asked "You think so?" and she confirmed it; he was relying on her judgment as the person who would know best.



I do think there was an opportunity to bring the Federation into this, even tangentially. Destiny has resisted joining the Federation but presumably if their crops continued to fail then the Federation could easily swoop in as saviours. In my head cannon the people coming to pick Sara and the Neutrotope up aren't criminals, they're Federation trooper (although possibly Sara doesn't realise this).

I feel the opposite -- it's lazy to tie every episode into the same story arc. It's a big galaxy -- the Federation shouldn't be the cause of every problem in it.


I'm not sure I'd called it petty. They were prepared to let a colony/planetary population starve and die (so many 1000s dead) and I don't think he'd have been prepared to let them get away (even if they didn't have device).

And we know that Blake could be cold blooded and ruthless - as we saw into the later part of series B and in series A with Breakdown.

I think setting a booby trap to kill people from a distance when they pose no immediate threat is a cowardly move no matter how you justify it. It's the way the Federation would do things; Blake's supposed to be better than that.

And the episode doesn't really justify it. It's just casually thrown in there at the end, with no more acknowledgment of moral ambiguity than there was when Luke Skywalker blew up the Death Star. It's the writer's thoughtlessness about it that bugs me as much as Blake's ruthlessness.
 
Few minutes in Mission To Destiny and I'm already actively disliking it. :rolleyes: A murder... IN SPACE! I suppose people in 1978 were in awe for such a concept!
This story is neither the first nor the last murder mystery in space to be filmed. I don't know why Blakes 7 should be immune to it or singled out for a ribbing over the concept.

The execution, sure. It wasn't particularly involving, but it's a good Paul Darrow showcase and him slugging the murderer at the end was both shocking and funny because
the killer was a woman and
Darrow could make that sort of thing funny. Especially his "I rather enjoyed it" line.
 
It's basic maritime tradition that you don't ignore a ship in distress. Blake is supposed to be a good guy, after all. He wants to overthrow the Federation because he wants people to be safe and free. So of course he's going to help someone in distress.
You have a point here

I'm surprised you didn't call out Blake's line, "According to the data banks, Galaxy Class cruisers are fitted with communicators." As if that were somehow unusual.
I categorized it under "science-y nonsense" :)

It's a mild, harmless tranqulizer they're familiar with, and Blake shakes off its effects with an effort of will. It's an inconvenience, not a threat to life and limb.
Uhmm ok.

Obviously, because he didn't die instantly and was able to stagger to the door and fall against it (after writing the mystery message in his blood). It's a routine enough mystery trope.
I'm not still convinced...

As for why none of the Ortega crew go with them, remember that they're all suspects in a murder. Blake's within his rights to demand that none of them leave the scene of the crime until it's settled.
They could have taken the entire crew on board and left the crime scene intact (indeed, leaving all the people there risked tampering with it). And in any case, I think that saving a planet took precedence.

I don't understand your question. Blake voluntarily leaves them behind as hostages to prove Blake's good intentions to the Ortega crew. It's a show of good faith, to demonstrate that he intends to come back for them.
What I meant was that leaving their weapons was a purely symbolic gesture: both Cally and Avon could wander freely around the ship and go to the armory to get what they wanted.

Make up your mind. If it's an FTL drive, then normal-space inertia would be irrelevant, since it would be distorting spacetime in some way rather than merely coasting.
It gave me the impression that they were in "normal" space, especially since it would be absolutely insane to race through an asteroid field at relativistic speeds.

Given the almost-live way the show was recorded, the prop was presumably already there on the set in a place where the actress could pull it out from.
I mean the character: either she already had it with her but given how she was dressed it's impossible, or she had already hidden it in the room (but why would she have done that). Or she had gone to the armory, taken the weapon and returned while everyone was turning their backs on her. None of the explanations make much sense.

Because she intends to leave that to the pirates she's rendezvousing with. Despite her threat, it would be difficult for her to kill them all if they charged her; at most, she could kill one of them before they stopped her, since she's small and easily overpowered. So it's safer for her to run, hide, and wait for her accomplices to board and kill them all.
Maybe it's my mistake because I thought that weapon was like a phaser (i.e. to eliminate a room full of people in an instant).


Personally, I thought it was very petty of Blake to rig a charge to kill the raiders when they opened the airlock. What was the point of that? Everyone was evacuated (except Sara, by her own choice), so there was nobody left to defend by killing the raiders. It was just a vindictive, gratuitous act of murder, out of character for Blake.
And for all they knew it was just a spaceship passing by and wanting to help.
 
This story is neither the first nor the last murder mystery in space to be filmed. I don't know why Blakes 7 should be immune to it or singled out for a ribbing over the concept.

Maybe it's just me who isn't a big fan of the murder mystery genre (at least on TV shows).
 
They could have taken the entire crew on board and left the crime scene intact (indeed, leaving all the people there risked tampering with it). And in any case, I think that saving a planet took precedence.

Yeah, but then the murderer would've been on board the Liberator in a position to sabotage it. If the priority is to get the neutrotope to Destiny, best if there isn't a murderer on the same ship. (Although Blake really should've looked inside the case first.)

What I meant was that leaving their weapons was a purely symbolic gesture: both Cally and Avon could wander freely around the ship and go to the armory to get what they wanted.

Of course it was symbolic. The point was that Blake intended to come back for them rather than running away with the priceless MacGuffin. It wouldn't matter if Avon and Cally were armed if Blake just abandoned them there, since the ship wasn't going anywhere.


It gave me the impression that they were in "normal" space, especially since it would be absolutely insane to race through an asteroid field at relativistic speeds.

Well, hyperspace would have nothing to do with relativistic travel anyway. But yeah, the whole asteroid sequence is poorly thought out. It's just an excuse to give the rest of the cast something to do.


I mean the character: either she already had it with her but given how she was dressed it's impossible, or she had already hidden it in the room (but why would she have done that). Or she had gone to the armory, taken the weapon and returned while everyone was turning their backs on her. None of the explanations make much sense.

Given that she's a murderer who's being actively hunted, it makes sense to me that she'd prearrange to have a weapon close at hand just in case. And my point was that, since the scene was recorded effectively live as a continuous take, what applies to the actress also applies to the character, i.e. that the weapon had to be already on hand for her to get hold of while the scene played out. Yes, it's possible that a stagehand gave it to her while she was off-camera, but it could also have been stashed under the cushion of the chair where she was sitting, say, or hidden behind her back. She spent the entire scene in that armchair until she drew the weapon, which suggests there was a reason for that.


Maybe it's my mistake because I thought that weapon was like a phaser (i.e. to eliminate a room full of people in an instant).

No reason to assume that. Heck, even the Liberator's super-advanced wand weapons can only shoot one person at a time. For that matter, even phasers can't do what you say, as far as we know; the only times we've ever seen them fire wide-field have been on a stun setting.


And for all they knew it was just a spaceship passing by and wanting to help.

The odds against two interstellar spacecraft accidentally coming within range of a ship in distress within a day or two of each other are literally astronomical.


By the latter I mean things like "Murder, She wrote".

"Mission to Destiny" was probably inspired more by Sherlock Holmes and Agatha Christie. Although Murder, She Wrote was a pastiche of Christie's Miss Marple. The series title was a reference to Murder, She Said, the first movie in MGM's 1960s Miss Marple film series starring Margaret Rutherford, and Angela Lansbury had played Miss Marple in a 1980 movie that was meant to begin a series but flopped (as well as having a supporting role in Peter Ustinov's first Hercule Poirot movie two years earlier).
 
Knowing what we now know about Avon and his past relationship, one can be forgiven in thinking he's taking out his anger/frustration on Sara.

Various sources have noted that Avon does NOT like being manipulated by women in particular. Witness his cold treatment of Cally in The Web after she (whilst possessed) flirted with him to find out important information about the Liberator's systems.
 
Various sources have noted that Avon does NOT like being manipulated by women in particular. Witness his cold treatment of Cally in The Web after she (whilst possessed) flirted with him to find out important information about the Liberator's systems.
Avon is not a good guy in series 1. Remember that the pitch is the Dirty Dozen in Space.
 
Avon isn't a good guy in ANY of the series.

But he's not as bad a guy as he keeps insisting he is, at least not in the first three seasons. He tells Blake and his crew to expect him to betray or abandon them at the drop of a hat, but then he comes through and saves them in a pinch and covers by saying he surprised himself or concocts some plausibly self-serving excuse for why he helped them. At the start of Series C,
his priority after being cut off from the rest of the crew is to find and rescue them (except Blake, who's missing, and Jenna, who reports she's fine where she is), acting like a true crewmate rather than a selfish opportunist. And there's that moment in "Aftermath" where he has a chance to kill an enemy but just knocks him out and stops Dayna from killing him.

Avon is so performative about being a bad guy, in contrast to his actual actions, that I think it's a reaction to what happened with Anna. He was too late to save her through no fault of his own, but Del Grant accused him of betraying Anna. I think that, out of guilt, Avon started to act like the treacherous person Grant believed he was, convincing himself and everyone around him that he was not to be trusted. Which was probably also protective camouflage, keeping his distance to avoid being hurt again. But still, he formed connections to his crewmates despite himself and cared about their well-being. He was no saint, of course, but he was capable of personal loyalty, and he wasn't a casual or arbitrary killer.
 
But he's not as bad a guy as he keeps insisting he is, at least not in the first three seasons. He tells Blake and his crew to expect him to betray or abandon them at the drop of a hat, but then he comes through and saves them in a pinch and covers by saying he surprised himself or concocts some plausibly self-serving excuse for why he helped them. At the start of Series C,
his priority after being cut off from the rest of the crew is to find and rescue them (except Blake, who's missing, and Jenna, who reports she's fine where she is), acting like a true crewmate rather than a selfish opportunist. And there's that moment in "Aftermath" where he has a chance to kill an enemy but just knocks him out and stops Dayna from killing him.

Avon is so performative about being a bad guy, in contrast to his actual actions, that I think it's a reaction to what happened with Anna. He was too late to save her through no fault of his own, but Del Grant accused him of betraying Anna. I think that, out of guilt, Avon started to act like the treacherous person Grant believed he was, convincing himself and everyone around him that he was not to be trusted. Which was probably also protective camouflage, keeping his distance to avoid being hurt again. But still, he formed connections to his crewmates despite himself and cared about their well-being. He was no saint, of course, but he was capable of personal loyalty, and he wasn't a casual or arbitrary killer.

Oh absolutely. There are shades of bad guy.

The whole "Dems are no better than Republicans!" schtick gets old for this reason.

One isn't planning to remove your entire ability to feel anger.
 
I don't think so. "Mission to Destiny" is much more of a standard drawing-room murder mystery in space than it is a Doctor Who-type story. I see it as Paul Darrow's audition tape for the role of Sherlock Holmes. And it shows he would've been a pretty good Holmes.

But there are plenty of Who episodes that start like that. Hell Robots of Death for one.

I feel the opposite -- it's lazy to tie every episode into the same story arc. It's a big galaxy -- the Federation shouldn't be the cause of every problem in it.

I would agree (though Nation did say that even in the standalone episodes the threat of the Federation should get a mention) but this episode is tailor made for Federation involvement, and would show how insidious the Federation can be, several episodes before this is really mentioned with the "Lindor Strategy"
 
I'm well aware of it.

Avon isn't a good guy in ANY of the series.

Ask Vila in Series 4. At least HE can answer. Poor Dr. Plaxton...

Dr Plaxton was dead either way. ;)

When push comes to shove Avon will put himself first, take Dawn of the Gods way before Orbit, but he does genuinely care about the others, in spite of himself for sure, but he does. His line in Duel sums him up.

I have never understood why it should be necessary to become irrational in order to prove that you care - or indeed why it should be necessary to prove it at all.
 
But there are plenty of Who episodes that start like that. Hell Robots of Death for one.

I still say it's a gross failure of imagination to assume the only work of fiction Nation could've been referencing was Doctor Who, which was just one of the many different TV and radio series he wrote for over the course of his career. I mean, it's a matter of record that Nation's main influences for Blake's 7 included The Dirty Dozen, Robin Hood, 1984, Brave New World, and Westerns like The Magnificent Seven, so he obviously had an eclectic knowledge of fiction. So don't stereotype him as just "the Doctor Who guy." If an episode comes along that is blatantly a drawing-room murder mystery, then the sensible and obvious conclusion is that he based it on drawing-room murder mysteries.

Anyway, "The Robots of Death" was by Chris Boucher, whose career outside of DW and B7 was mainly in TV crime dramas and police procedurals, so it stands to reason that he had a prior interest in the crime and mystery genres, hence writing a murder mystery for Doctor Who. Maybe his interest in mysteries helped spark the idea for "Mission to Destiny," even though Nation wrote the script.


I would agree (though Nation did say that even in the standalone episodes the threat of the Federation should get a mention) but this episode is tailor made for Federation involvement, and would show how insidious the Federation can be, several episodes before this is really mentioned with the "Lindor Strategy"

I don't see how it would've made the episode better in any way, since it would've just been a background issue, nothing more than a slightly different context for what was going on in the main story. It seems pointless to focus on a non-problem like the lack of the Federation when there are much more important problems with the plot, like the whole asteroid-field nonsense and Blake's idiocy in failing to make sure the neutrotope was in the case before he took it away.
 
though by the time we're into Series D Avon is really starting to lose his marbles and that may have compounded things

This is very true. I'd guessing it was the return of
Anna that started the spiral, getting tricked over Blake/the Liberator being destroyed likely cemented it, though I like to think Cally's death might have been the final nail.
 
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