And the Next Cancelled Show is...

[Owain Taggart]

US Amazon Prime customers can add Apple TV + for $10/month, and have access to premium entertainment.

My comment was in response to the posting about licensing. The partnership with Amazon is not quite the same thing. It just means you're able to get Apple's content through Amazon because they already have a deal in place. The licensing on the other hand would mean material licensed out to different parties not under the partnerships.

 

[Aragorn]

ESPN’s Around the Horn is ending next summer.

 

[DarrenTR1970]

CBS has abruptly canceled 'The Talk' after 15 seasons. December 16th's show will be its last.

 

[auntiehill]

Huh, can't say I'm surprised. I've tried to watch it a few times lately and it's just dreadfully boring.

 

[Owain Taggart]

I've been kind of hoping ABC would put Live with Kelly and Mark out of its misery. It's been dreadfully boring ever since her husband joined her full time. They almost constantly seem to talk about married life together. They often feel like they scrape the bottom of the barrel, recycling content constantly. For example, their Halloween shows used to be fun, but ever since they've started pre-recording their skits about a decade ago, to show off their many costume changes, it stopped being about being in the moment and started becoming a popularity contest. Plus whenever have a big event, such as their Halloween show or After-Oscars show, they always pat themselves on the back by showing lots of clips the next day.

Word is that ABC is selling the current studio they're currently working out of in NYC, and the show will be moving to a new one in the Spring.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Meh. I've never carried about daytime talk shows (except sporadically The View for specific reasons). They could all be cancelled and I wouldn't blink an eye.

Hell, most late night talk shows don't do anything for me aside from Stephen Colbert, Graham Norton, and The Daily Show (although Seth Meyers can be fun for clips but I was never a regular viewer).

 

[cardinal biggles]

I've been kind of hoping ABC would put Live with Kelly and Mark out of its misery. It's been dreadfully boring ever since her husband joined her full time. They almost constantly seem to talk about married life together. They often feel like they scrape the bottom of the barrel, recycling content constantly. For example, their Halloween shows used to be fun, but ever since they've started pre-recording their skits about a decade ago, to show off their many costume changes, it stopped being about being in the moment and started becoming a popularity contest. Plus whenever have a big event, such as their Halloween show or After-Oscars show, they always pat themselves on the back by showing lots of clips the next day.

Word is that ABC is selling the current studio they're currently working out of in NYC, and the show will be moving to a new one in the Spring.

Oh god, I haven't watched Live probably since the early days of Kelly Ripa's tenure. I do remember enjoying when Regis' wife Joy would be a last-minute guest host when Kathie Lee was out. Their banter was fun but didn't overwhelm the show like what you're describing with Kelly and Mark.

 

[Owain Taggart]

Oh god, I haven't watched Live probably since the early days of Kelly Ripa's tenure. I do remember enjoying when Regis' wife Joy would be a last-minute guest host when Kathie Lee was out. Their banter was fun but didn't overwhelm the show like what you're describing with Kelly and Mark.

Yeah, from time to time, he would guest-host with him before he was made permanent, which was fine when hearing of their life in spurts, but I think there's a reason there aren't more married couples sharing hosting duties on a permanent basis. You want the hosts to provide contrast. Regis and Kelly was fun, the banter was often hilarious. Even Kelly and Micheal Strahan were fun. Kelly and Ryan Seacrest is when I feel the show started to take a dive in terms of both quality and content. When Mark joined the show, they pretty much made it all about themselves. Even their trivia game has callers try to stump Mark. And the way they pat themselves on the back all the time via showing clips from shows that they've just done is rather embarrassing. Like if their Halloween show is on a Friday, they won't hesitate to tell you how brilliant they think their Halloween show was the following Monday by showing you clips ad-nauseum. They once had clips running for nearly 10 min. Same with their After-Oscars show, sometimes immediately the day after the show airs, as if we need a reminder. And they just seem to run these clips to fill their airtime, as if to say they really don't have enough content booked to fill the hour! Why is the show even still on the air at this point?

 

[cardinal biggles]

Kelly and Ryan Seacrest is when I feel the show started to take a dive in terms of both quality and content.

I forgot that Seacrest had been her co-host for a while. I feel like he's everywhere these days – American Idol, the New Year's Eve thing he took over from Dick Clark, his radio shows, and now he's host of Wheel of Fortune. Blandly ubiquitous.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Meh. I've never carried about daytime talk shows (except sporadically The View for specific reasons). They could all be cancelled and I wouldn't blink an eye.

Hell, most late night talk shows don't do anything for me aside from Stephen Colbert, Graham Norton, and The Daily Show (although Seth Meyers can be fun for clips but I was never a regular viewer).

Showing my age, but I was a fan of Mike Douglas and Merv Griffin when I was young. Douglas always has guest co-hosts for a week. One week it was John Lennon and Yoko Ono. As a nascent Beatles fan it was heaven.

 

[Owain Taggart]

Blandly ubiquitous.

That's the right description Oh man, I never liked him. He's always struck me as an arrogant know-it-all high-achiever. He seems to put his nose into everything. And for someone who supposedly is a successful broadcaster, he doesn't appear to have much personality or charisma. Which then makes me wonder how he keeps getting these projects that are so different.

 

[Owain Taggart]

Today, Kelly went on for about 5 min about her former apartment and how it used to look before they moved in and showed pictures for anyone who cared

Not that I'm really watching. I just have it on in the background, but sometimes I just roll my eyes at the table discussions they have that supposedly passes as content.

 

[the G-man]

Netflix treats all movies and tv shows as content, nothing more. The stuff that comes out of their boss’ mouth just makes you shake your head. I don’t know how they make money making bad $150 million movies that are watched for the first three days and then forgotten, but they must be because they keep doing it.

Ask these guys:

 

[Owain Taggart]

And not to mention the mobile games. They spent a fortune to develop mobile games, even buying studios that would give them exclusives. But I haven't heard of anyone using Netflix to play their games. You see them advertised on Netflix as part of their screensaver, but it requires you to actually use their mobile app, which I don't do as I don't watch anything on my tablet or phone. But then I'm not much a mobile game player in the first place. In general, it just seems like a misplaced theory that anyone with a netflix account would want to be gaming. And then there's the visibility factor, as they had to find a way to let people know that gaming was even a thing on the platform as many simply weren't aware it was even a thing. Seems like a lot of effort to try to get into a different market stream.

And if this is a factor for why subscription prices rose in the last few years, then I'd happily say, why not put the gaming into the premium 4K tier to allow for lower prices for the lower tiers.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

And not to mention the mobile games. They spent a fortune to develop mobile games, even buying studios that would give them exclusives. But I haven't heard of anyone using Netflix to play their games. You see them advertised on Netflix as part of their screensaver, but it requires you to actually use their mobile app, which I don't do as I don't watch anything on my tablet or phone. But then I'm not much a mobile game player in the first place. In general, it just seems like a misplaced theory that anyone with a netflix account would want to be gaming. And then there's the visibility factor, as they had to find a way to let people know that gaming was even a thing on the platform as many simply weren't aware it was even a thing. Seems like a lot of effort to try to get into a different market stream.

And if this is a factor for why subscription prices rose in the last few years, then I'd happily say, why not put the gaming into the premium 4K tier to allow for lower prices for the lower tiers.

At the risk of going off topic too much, this direction has actually pissed off me and the fan base for a certain game: Monument Valley. It's a gorgeous puzzle game for phones that's had two separate releases (with added levels for both). For years, we've been waiting for a third release...only for the the game app to be locked behind a Netflix paywall.

Fortunately, I have access to the game but it's absolutely insane (and inane) to expect people to get a streaming subscription in order to play a single game, especially one that has such a loyal and devoted fan base up to this point. I can at least take solace in the fact the fan base has sounded off pretty loudly on social media but I don't think it'll make much of a difference.

The ironic part is that this situation circles back to your point about visibility: The creators of Monument Valley partnered with Netflix in order to increase visibility for the game.

 

[Owain Taggart]

I feel your pain. And the strange thing is, there is absolutely no evidence that their gaming is successful, and I find it to be such strange move from a streaming service. And yeah, the visibility is almost non-existent for their games given the very nature of how they're deployed. The best they can do is advertise them via their screensaver, which doesn't seem like nearly enough.

 

[Aragorn]

Something called Dinner With the Parents was canceled after one season on Freevee.

 

[Jayson1]

Something called Dinner With the Parents was canceled after one season on Freevee.

Never saw it but it was based on a great underrated British show called "Friday NIght Dinner' which I loved. If people want to watch two great British shows that nobody seems to know about they should watch this and also something called "Detectorists."

 

[Nerys Myk]

Never saw it but it was based on a great underrated British show called "Friday NIght Dinner' which I loved. If people want to watch two great British shows that nobody seems to know about they should watch this and also something called "Detectorists."

Should have used that title and made it about football.

 

[DarrenTR1970]

HBOMax has decided not to renew its license with Sesame Street; meaning, if it can't find another streaming service, this upcoming season will be its last.