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Are people really this fixed on things like the Bell Riots?

Hmm. I'm not going to lie. I think we'll have some sort of social unrest in the next four years that will spark some type of outrage. But the Bell Riots themselves? Sorry Warcraft_Fan from Reddit! Not happening. ;)
 
And the problem is . . . ?

Those were memorable episodes dealing with issues we're still struggling with today. Why wouldn't Trek fans still want to think and talk about them?

Especially given that 2024 has finally come around at last.
Thinking and talking is not what concerns me.

The obsession with them happening, and perhaps expecting them to happen is an interesting phenomenon.
 
Which is exactly the reason why some events in Star Trek must be regarded as obsolete, be rewritten, postponed or moved in time.

We all know that the Eugenic Wars never happened, we all know that the Bell Riots never happened, we all know that Ireland wasn't unified in 2024 (well if it was then they better hurry up now).

So why don't just skip all those events in Trek history?

The easiest way to "write around" those events which never happened is to state that Henry Starling's dabbling with time (in the VOY episode Future's End) may have changed some events in the 21th century.

Maybe this could be used to wipe out some other stupidities made by certain producers in recent time, such as the destruction of Vulcan and Romulus.
 
Star Trek is an alternate history. The Star Trek 1990's (luckily!) weren't our 1990's. Our 2024 doesn't have Sanctuary Districts, missions to Europa and Io, or a Mao collar fashion trend.

Allow the decades of Star Trek world building and continuity to continue with its own internal inertia instead of trying to retcon it with whatever's happening in our present day, which would bound to be contradicted anyway.
 
Star Trek Picard s2 was telling stories about 2024's Europa space mission, so it seems like the current plan is similar to comic book stories, where big events can be different but the present day always remains recognisable. So the Bell Riots happened right on time.
PS2 gets a lot of shit (some of it admittedly deserved) but one thing it didn't do was fuck with the pre-existing late 20th/early 21st century Star Trek world building. Hell, it even has a constructively ambiguous stance on the Eugenics Wars, where they are heavily implied to have already happened, while giving some wiggle room.
 
Which is exactly the reason why some events in Star Trek must be regarded as obsolete, be rewritten, postponed or moved in time.
Yes, indeed. Trek gets updated all the time to reflect our own history since it's meant as our humanity's future. It isn't alternate history or whatnot but a reflection of current world challenges and history.

Some events happen and some move. That's how Trek has always treated it.
 
I'm conflicted on the timeline thing.

Realistically, Trek obviously can't exactly be our future, because they've already had events in their past that didn't occur in our timeline, and while it could be argued that those were ultimately insignificant events, they are still divergence points. As such, moving things like the Eugenics Wars around in time just to keep up the idea of 'Trek could still be our future!' feels rather like wishful thinking to me. Plus I wouldn't mind if we managed not to have Eugenics Wars and a nuclear holocaust.

On the other hand, from a creative standpoint, there's something a little appealing to me in seeing how TPTB try to keep Trek as a viable future regardless of the low probability. Moving the EW feels a bit contrived, but if you want to entertain the idea of Trek's future as our own, then I feel their hands were tied (though I also liked the idea of the EW being a somewhat covert series of events, as Greg Cox speculated). Again, though, regardless of when the nuclear holocaust is moved to, we're still taking about a nuclear holocaust.

It would be nice to think that Sanctuary Districts are a thing that will never come to pass, but if they're a necessary step in Trek's history, then what does it mean if they don't happen? And...sadly, yes, there are some arguments that can be made that to some degree they've already happened, but I don't want to get into that.
 
Yes, indeed. Trek gets updated all the time to reflect our own history since it's meant as our humanity's future. It isn't alternate history or whatnot but a reflection of current world challenges and history.

Some events happen and some move. That's how Trek has always treated it.
Yes, that's necessary. Trek would look silly otherwise.


Using "the Henry Starling explanation" could be a smart way to eliminate such inconsistencies in the Trek history.
 
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PS2 gets a lot of shit (some of it admittedly deserved) but one thing it didn't do was fuck with the pre-existing late 20th/early 21st century Star Trek world building. Hell, it even has a constructively ambiguous stance on the Eugenics Wars, where they are heavily implied to have already happened, while giving some wiggle room.
This is true. Before watching Picard Season 2, I never thought about how much unintentional world-building Star Trek had done with its 20th and early-21st Centuries. What was more amazing was how much it all held up together as its own thing.
 
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