Roswell (1999-02) Any fans?
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I liked the original show better. Too many changes were made for the new show, and Maria felt more like a guest star than a main character. The characters were too quick to sleep with each other, too bitchy towards each other, yet still tried to behave like they did in the books (where they are teens) despite being in their 30's. The flashbacks to high school were unnecessary and just badly done. "Backwards hat, I am young." No, you're not. Their powers were far more powerful in the original TV show. The alien mythology was also far more "alien" and sometimes outright horror-themed in the original. In the new show, it was like it just existed as yet another CW relationship show, riding on the Roswell brand-name.
Keep in mind, I only saw 2 or 3 episodes, but I didn't like what I saw.
Why do you think the new one beats the original? I often like remakes, so I honestly want to know if I bailed too soon.
Well, I enjoyed a CW show where they actually bothered making the leads all adults instead of adults playing teens and I thought the bittersweet ending where Max chooses to go back to his birthworld (well, the world the man he's cloned from came from) to fight for its freedom was more fulfilling than the original TV show's ending where Max and Liz gave up on all that, ran away from everything to get married and the last show was Liz's father realizing he'll never see his daughter again while Liz is smiling to the camera about how happy she is.
The only CW dramas I have watched are the opening three episodes of the new Roswell via Netflix and the opening episodes of Superman & Lois at a friend's house. I've never been part of CW's target demographic.
Teens, adults, I'm indifferent so long as the stories are good. Also, that's not how the original show ended, not at all.
#1 Max and Lix didn't give up on Antar. Their one way back was the Granolith which Tess used to return to Antar by herself, because she was going to betray Max, Michael, and Isabel and hand them over to Kivvar. Once the Granolith left, that's it, they're stranded on Earth and they had no options except to move on. What were they supposed to do?
#2 The reunited Special Unit was out to kill Max, Michael, Isabel, and Liz for being evil alien monsters. It was stay or die. Of course they had to run away.
#3 Max and Liz was always the center of the show, so what's wrong with the finale revealing they got married after hitting the road?
#4 Liz's father is emotional, because no more lies, now he knows the truth of what had been going on with his daughter during her high school years and why she left.
#5 Who said he'd never see his daughter again? They're not on the run for life, just "for now." Remember the goodbye between Jesse and Isabel? He asks when he'll see her again. She said she'll keep praying that one day it will be safe. He put her engagement and wedding rings back onto her finger, telling her he's counting on it. He has every intention of seeing his wife again.
#6 Liz ends the show smiling, narrating that she's happy, because she's finally married to Max, no more hiding, no more lies, no more looking over their shoulder, they can just be themselves now.
I loved the original show, feeling like a complete outsider at the time. Character-wise, I felt deeply connected to all three of the main alien characters. Max desperately wanted to be loved and accepted, especially by Liz who he'd loved since childhood. His sister Isabel had the unique ability to literally visit people in their dreams, but she was often very defensive and tended to be a so-called "ball-buster". As for their surrogate brother Michael, he came from an abusive background and couldn't control his powers due to his unstable anger and fear. The one person he loved outside his siblings was Liz's friend Maria DeLuca, but they fought like cats and dogs because he used a mask of emotional apathy to hide his true feelings from her.
As for the other characters, I really liked how the town sheriff Jim Valenti evolved. He started off as a devout antagonist, but switched his view when
. Toward the end of the first season, they also added a fourth alien character named Tess, who served as a romantic foil to Liz and also had a conflicted agenda of her own.
As for the other characters, I really liked how the town sheriff Jim Valenti evolved. He started off as a devout antagonist, but switched his view when
Max saved his son Kyle from a fatal gunshot by FBI agent Daniel Pierce
Agreed, but I'll add that where Valenti was the villain in the books, he was retooled in the series. He just wanted to find out the truth, prove his Dad right, and stop the evil alien monsters. Over the course of the season, he sees that the alien monsters are just kids, and the only ones he sees doing any killing is the Special Unit.
Ahhh, well - Roswell. Awesome show, I have it on DVD and watched it rather recently.
(Insert uninteresting side-informations here: In the german version, the voice-actress dubbing Tess also did the voice-work for Kes and for Princess Jasmine on the Aladdin TV-Show. Sheriff Valentis voice actor also voiced Dr. House and Yami Marik over on Yu-Gi-Oh. Plus: Tess's actress later was married to Renard - erm... sorry: She played Belle in OUAT - and Rumples actor played "Renard" in "The World is not Enough".)
(Insert uninteresting side-informations here: In the german version, the voice-actress dubbing Tess also did the voice-work for Kes and for Princess Jasmine on the Aladdin TV-Show. Sheriff Valentis voice actor also voiced Dr. House and Yami Marik over on Yu-Gi-Oh. Plus: Tess's actress later was married to Renard - erm... sorry: She played Belle in OUAT - and Rumples actor played "Renard" in "The World is not Enough".)
Hello, fellow Roswell fan.
Do you have a favorite character, episode, story arc?
Well, I liked the episodes with Jonathan Frakes - obviously.
That being said: The one with Nasedo were quite interesting and as a favourite Character... well, Alex was cool - it's a shame, that he died - but I definitely liked the complete cast.
That being said: The one with Nasedo were quite interesting and as a favourite Character... well, Alex was cool - it's a shame, that he died - but I definitely liked the complete cast.
His promoting the show like crazy and trying to draw in the Trekkies was how I found it back in 1999.
Loved Nasedao, wish he stuck around longer, but I get he was written out to up the danger and rob the aliens of a protector, leaving that role to Valenti. I always liked Alex. Did you know his first scene in the pilot was his first time before camera? His character was killed off, because the actor was trying to pursue a film career, and they didn't want to hold him back. After that, I believe he did return as Isabel's imagined ghost of Alex in the S2 finale and once more into S3 when she got scared and almost broke it off with Jesse in the 3rd episode.
Oh, I didn't know that. I only knew - like I said - that Tess later became Belle (a definitely less 'zickige' role, than Tess) and that Kyle Valentii later on became Jack Porter over on Revenge. And I think, he was in Team Knight Rider, am I right?
I don't know, most of the cast, I only know them for Roswell.
I liked Jason Behr (Max) in Dragon Wars.
Brendan Fehr (Michael) had a cameo in X-Men: First class.
Katherine Heighl (Isabel) was fun in Killers with Ashton Kutcher.
I've seen a few movies with Colin Hanks (Alex), and he always nails his role.
Nick Weshler (Kyle) popped up in the pilot of Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles as a cop.
William Sadler was the one big name on the cast, and he's been in a lot of stuff before and after. Trekkies know him as Agent Sloane from a few episodes of DS9, our first Section31 character.
I haven't seen Emilie de Ravid (Tess) in anything outside the show, not that I remember anyway.
After Roswell, Adam Rogriguez (Jesse) landed a role on CSI: Miami for 10 years.
Colin Hanks was - I think - the SecNav on NCIS, right?
According to Wikipedia, he played Richard Parsons for 3 episodes on NCIS.
You never saw Grey's Anatomy or Lost?
No, I think he was an investigator or something who was looking into something the team did. It's been ages since I watched his episodes, so I don't remember them very well. All I remember for sure is he started out working against them, but ended up on their side by the end of his story arc.
Nope. I do like House and Fringe.
Nope. I do like House and Fringe.
The reason I mentioned that is because Emilie de Ravin was on Lost and Katherine Heigl rose to fame as one of the main stars of Gray's Anatomy.
I've seen clips of Grey's Anatomy, but I never watched it, not a hospital drama guy. I only watched House, because I kept seeing House & Wilson clips on YouTube, so I wanted to see more. I figured I'd watch maybe 5 episodes, get my House & Wilson fix, and bail. I ended up watching the entire series.
Lost, I didn't have any in Gilligan's Island, but serious, and with TXF-grade mysteriousness. I did love Fringe, found it on Netflix randomly back in the mid mid to late 20-10's and ended up watching the entire series.
I know the feeling, Admiral. ^^ I mean, in Germany, we have two Hospital-Drama-Shows, that are okay to watch (In Aller Freundschaft, In aller Freundschaft: Die Jungen Ärzte and In aller Freundschaft: Die Krankenschwestern) and to me, at least DJÄ started for me as something, I like to call "An comedy-show, trapped in the body of a ABC show" - to me, at least the early seasons of NCIS were a Comedy-Show trapped in the body of a crime-drama and IAF, DJÄ, DK were a comedy-show trapped in the body of a hospital-drama.
IAF had funny sideline-plots with a male nurse, who a) was incredibly competent, when it came to medical-stuff (later on went to become a Doctor, if I recall correctly) and b) had the same speech-problem, that Ziva has, whil I called him "male Ziva". He said something like "Das war heimlistig und argtückisch", although it should be "arglistig" and "heimtükisch". IAF had Doctor Kaminski, again very, very competent on medical-level, while being something of a light-version of Doctor House. Sometimes he'd go "well, he's gonna die... boring" and when someone told him, that he shouldn't say something like that, he'd quote Nietzsche.
And this show had Sarah Marquardt. Tanner on GoldenEye once called M "The evil queen of numbers" - but Tanner didn't know Sarah Marquardt. That one is a cold-hearted-evil-queen-of-numbers, but also a single mother and when her son is in danger - or some friends of her are - one can see, that this evil queen of numbers with a cold heart also has a heart of gold.
And DJÄ has Doctor Moreau - he is the best, he is more or less the authority in all things plastic surgery, but the bad thing about him is: He definitely knows that he's the best. And that leads to sentences like "You want to go skating again, after I fixed your leg? That was a work of art, but if you want to destroy that - okay, but I am moster certainly not treating you afterwards. Go look for another surgeon."
That being said, he, too, has a heart of gold. There once was a female Alzheimer's patient, always confusing him for her boyfriend, who was a soldier in WWII. And when she was about to die, and wanted to see her boyfriend again, he went full out cosplay, rented an uniform and went there, saying goodbye to her.
Yeah, sometimes these shows have their tear-jerker moments, never the less, when they're not dealing with really heavy themes or they kill off a main-cast-character (which also happened), these shows have their humourous, sometimes even absurd moments, which is, why I call them "a comedy-show, trapped in the body of a medical-drama".
So, I have my fix of Medical-Dramas and I never thought, I'd be interested in that. IAF, DJÄ... Doctor Who - oh, sorry. ^^
