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How do/did you feel about the return of the Enterprise-D?

It's a point of contention as to whether or not this Defiant actually had a cloaking device. There was no mention of one in the two episodes of DS9 it was featured in, suggesting there is no canonical evidence it had a cloaking device. At the very least, after Jack stole the HMS Bounty's cloaking device, they had a problem hooking it up to the Titan due to incompatibility between Federation and Klingon technology. If the Defiant had a cloak, you'd think it would make more sense for Jack to steal a cloak that was proven compatible with Federation technology.

Yeah, I know, then there'd be no TVH memberberry.
The first Defiant had a cloaking device from the Romulans because of the Dominion in the Delta Quadrant and later to use in the Alpha Quadrant as the Dominion threat grew. I think the Romulans chilled out a bit and were fine with the Defiant cloaking whenever so long as it was only the one ship with a cloak. The second Defiant came along just as the war ends. With the war over and the Dominion withdrawing, there's no real reason to install a cloak.
 
Even without the cloaking device, if Defiant was armed and armored...it was literally built with the explicit intention of fighting the Borg, and the kinds of stunt flying the E-D pulled would have been a heck of a lot easier with a smaller vessel.
A bridge crew, one mission: fight the Borg. The Defiant-A or even Voyager with its Borg upgrades honestly makes more sense. Additionally, neither ship survived a crash landing like the Ent-D saucer. What would be an in-story justification to pick the Ent-D over Defiant-A or Voyager? Perhaps just more familiar with it?
 
we don't know the operational status of either vessel. It might be more work/time to convert them out of museum mode than we suspect.
It's whatever the script writer says. In Generations, the Ent-D saucer was not salvageable until PIC S3 said never mind, salvaged because the writers said so. With Voyager, the ship was only retired for PR reasons. The Defiant-A maybe have been retired for the same reason.
 
Depending on what software is meant to to do newer ships may sync automatically.

Regardless, I believe that's what Geordi says.
It's sloppy dialogue. The Ent-D saucer went down in 2371, the Defiant was already finished and just tucked away, and Voyager was launched in 2371. They all share the same technology.
 
It's sloppy dialogue. The Ent-D saucer went down in 2371, the Defiant was already finished and just tucked away, and Voyager was launched in 2371. They all share the same technology.
It's what's on screen. How much dialogue shall we dismiss?

Geordi says it so he's a liar opens a rather large can of gagh.
 
It's what's on screen. How much dialogue shall we dismiss?

Geordi says it so he's a liar opens a rather large can of gagh.
I didn't say we should ignore it, I said it's sloppy. It's like how the Ent-E is 24, 26, or 29 decks depending on who you ask. The Defiant is 4 or 5 decks depending on who you ask too. :lol:
 
Data: Admiral, Defiant would be a more tactically advisable choice.
Geordi: Unfortunately Defiant is currently unarmed. But I think I have something for the occasion...

Fixed.
 
It's sloppy dialogue. The Ent-D saucer went down in 2371, the Defiant was already finished and just tucked away, and Voyager was launched in 2371. They all share the same technology.

Actually, they specifically don't.

The Galaxy-class uses isolinear based computer chip for processing, whereas Voyager has managed bio-neural gelpacks for processing, which could easily be more vulnerable to assimilation.

Which technology the Defiant uses is known, but potentially has the other issue of being significantly slower than the other two.
 
Actually, they specifically don't.

The Galaxy-class uses isolinear based computer chip for processing, whereas Voyager has managed bio-neural gelpacks for processing, which could easily be more vulnerable to assimilation.

Which technology the Defiant uses is known, but potentially has the other issue of being significantly slower than the other two.
Only if drones beam aboard.
 
I didn't say we should ignore it, I said it's sloppy. It's like how the Ent-E is 24, 26, or 29 decks depending on who you ask.
IIRC, the Enterprise E's CGI model was modified in Nemesis to include 29 decks, suggesting a refit since the days when it had 24 or 26. Granted, that doesn't explain how deck 29 at the very bottom of the ship can have a bottomless pit in it.
Data: Admiral, Defiant would be a more tactically advisable choice.
Geordi: Unfortunately Defiant is currently unarmed. But I think I have something for the occasion...

Fixed.
Thing is, the Enterprise D was also unarmed. Geordi said they had to wait until the drones were finished arming it before they could take off.
 
Worf: "We could take the Defiant, it was designed to fight the Borg, with pulse phasers, quantum torpedoes and ablative armour. It's also nimble enough to manoeuvre inside a cube if that turns out to be something we want to do.

Riker: "Or we could take Voyager, which was equipped with both Borg upgrades from Seven of Nine and anti-Borg upgrades from Admiral Janeway. The ship has killed more cubes than any other Starfleet vessel."

Picard: "I like the Stargazer..."

Troi: "We all know we're taking the Enterprise-D, so let's just get on with it."
 
Now I like the idea of them boarding each ship (showing the bridge!) and each vessel suffering major malfunctions before they can get too far from (or possibly even leave) the museum. :p

Worf: We could take the Def... (Defiant suffers warp core breach)

Riker: Or we could take Voy... (nacelle falls off Voyager)

Picard: "It's as though we were always destined to take the Enterprise..."
 
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IIRC, the Enterprise E's CGI model was modified in Nemesis to include 29 decks, suggesting a refit since the days when it had 24 or 26. Granted, that doesn't explain how deck 29 at the very bottom of the ship can have a bottomless pit in it.

Thing is, the Enterprise D was also unarmed. Geordi said they had to wait until the drones were finished arming it before they could take off.
No, it wasn't. That's just fanon. The model is the same as it was in First Contact and Insurrection. The only modifications to the Ent-E for Nemesis was added weapons and the warp nacelles were swept back a bit, I think, and that's it. If they added several decks, this would require a redesign of the engineering hull to accommodate, which cannot be seen on screen.

The Enterprise-D was armed. Geordi said they the drones were loading the torpedo bays.
 
As we get more distance from season 3, I'm truly agog how its story falls apart like tissue paper in water when applying even a little thought to it.
It reminds me a lot of Steven Moffat's work on Doctor Who in that regard. What little plot logic exists is there to propel the emotional moments, hopefully at such speed that the story will outrun its narrative lapses.

Or, shorter: It's "turn off the brain" television.
 
#3 We don't know Picard did not keep his promise. It's simply not addressed. For all we know, Picard-Crusher didn't work out and he returned to Laris. Then again, Picard & Crusher could have come to see Laris. Maybe Picard came to see Laris, but she tells him to go to Crusher, knowing he still has feelings for her. Lots of ways this could play out, and I feel cheated that it's just not addressed in the finale. Laris was put on a bus.

There's a woman I dated a few years ago, right before covid. Because of that, and borders, we couldn't see each other at the time and it didn't work out. She has a little daughter that I connected with straight away. We are still friends and I am somewhat of a father figure to her daughter still. We see each other regularly as to provide a stable family setting for her to grow up in.

My point? That Beverly and Jean Luc decided to go together to see their son off on his first mission does not, as you suggested, immediately imply they are a couple again. I know of plenty divorced parents that still maintain regular family activities with their children and get along quite well. Now, ofcourse Jack isn't a child anymore, but I can absolutely see a Beverly and Jean Luc showing up as loving parents for such an occasion.
And yes, like you said, we do not know what happened with Laris and it quite a shame. But personally, I think Jean Luc did go to Laris on that planet and they are together. She was most likely invited to come along, but declined. I can see her and Beverly being great friends.
 
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