TNG & VOY crossovers, how many did we get?

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

It's been a while since I've watched the show. I'm sitting here wondering, how many TNG and VOY crossovers did the show do? I'm specifically asking about TNG and VOY crossovers that were done as DS9 episodes. O'Brien and Worf don't count, because that is too easy.

The Obvious: O'Brine joins the cast in the series premiere, Worf in the S4 premiere. The Enterprise-D, Picard, Thomas Riker (transporter clone), Gowron, Troi's mom, the Duras sisters all pop up on DS9. I feel like DS9's opening season had a crap ton of TNG people going, "Hey guys, it's MEE!!!" Season 2 calmed down a bit, now that people knew the show existed. I'm trying to think of actual crossovers, and not just shared background ships, sets, props, costumes that got shared across TNG-DS9-VOY.

From VOY: mirror-Tuvok in the 2nd MU episode, "Doctor Bashir, I Presume?" with Dr. Zimmerman and "an" EMH, and the Intrepid-class Bellerophon (spelling?) in S7. Given the shows were on opposite sides of the galaxy, I think these were the only VOY crossovers.

I am sure there are more. Wha'cha got?

 

[Bad Thoughts]

Voyager's Message in a Bottle was sort of a crossover, at least thematically.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

Voyager's Message in a Bottle was sort of a crossover, at least thematically.

King of, but it doesn't crossover with anything DS9-centric. Honestly, this was a missed opportunity. What if the Prometheus had a few DS9 crew on board? This would have been the perfect opportunity for a proper crossover between the two shows. Imagine if say O'Brien and Dax had been on the ship. Oh's well's.

I'm looking for DS9 episodes with VOY crossover, not the other way around, but I'll bite since you brought it up. While there's nothing DS9-specific, it still "feels" like a crossover, because of the First Contact / DS9 uniforms, Romulans, Prometheus being a response to the Dominion, the EMH II referencing the Dominion War, the 2 Akira-class ships, and the Defiant-class ship.

What do you think? Should there have been a one or a few DS9 peeps in this one?

 

[The Wormhole]

From TNG, Q, Vash and Admiral Nechayev also show up on DS9. There's Admiral Chekote, a character who appeared on both TNG and DS9, though I don't remember which he appeared on first. Gul Evek had guest appearances on TNG and DS9 and even showed up on Voyager in Caretaker.

the 2 Akira-class ships, and the Defiant-class ship.

Other way around, one Akira and two Defiants. Indeed, nitpickers love pointing out both Defiant class ships had "USS Defiant NX-74205" on their hulls, with some sarcastically suggesting one was the Defiant and the other was the Sao Paulo. At the very least, lending credence to the idea one of those ships really was the Defiant, when the security officers beam aboard the Prometheus, they're played by background extras who usually played Defiant crew on DS9.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

From TNG, Q, Vash and Admiral Nechayev also show up on DS9. There's Admiral Chekote, a character who appeared on both TNG and DS9, though I don't remember which he appeared on first. Gul Evek had guest appearances on TNG and DS9 and even showed up on Voyager in Caretaker.

Other way around, one Akira and two Defiants. Indeed, nitpickers love pointing out both Defiant class ships had "USS Defiant NX-74205" on their hulls, with some sarcastically suggesting one was the Defiant and the other was the Sao Paulo. At the very least, lending credence to the idea one of those ships really was the Defiant, when the security officers beam aboard the Prometheus, they're played by background extras who usually played Defiant crew on DS9.

Oh you're right, see, I knew there were more TNG people popping up. I once read Gul Evek was an attempt to tie all 3 shows together to draw viewers into Voyager. While not a DS9 episode, we did get DS9 and Quark in the VOY premeire.

That honestly would have been awesome if it was the Defiant. Imagine a quick cameo of Worf and O'Brien being the ones to beam over, then they both take a, "Dude... really?" when they see it's just 2 holo-Docs.

 

[Tosk]

when the security officers beam aboard the Prometheus, they're played by background extras who usually played Defiant crew on DS9.

According to MemAlph, only one of them is.

 

[Farscape One]

There was also Kalita, a Maquis member from TNG's "Preemptive Strike". (She's the one who didn't trust Ro at first.) She appeared on "DEFIANT" when Tom steals the Defiant.

Surprised Keiko hasn't been mentioned yet...

The Klingon in "The Chase", Nu'Daq, was also in "CROSSOVER". (I don't think his name was mentioned in dialogue on DS9, but it was the same actor playing a Klingon who spit in the face of one of mirror Sisko's crew.)

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

There was also Kalita, a Maquis member from TNG's "Preemptive Strike". (She's the one who didn't trust Ro at first.) She appeared on "DEFIANT" when Tom steals the Defiant.

Surprised Keiko hasn't been mentioned yet...

The Klingon in "The Chase", Nu'Daq, was also in "CROSSOVER". (I don't think his name was mentioned in dialogue on DS9, but it was the same actor playing a Klingon who spit in the face of one of mirror Sisko's crew.)

TNG Maquis person pops up in "Defiant?" Good eye!
Yes, Keiko too, and Molly if we wanna really dig into it.
Can't forget Worf's son, Alexander.
We got mirrror Klingon of a forgotten Klingon from that one TNG episode? Nice.

 

[Farscape One]

TNG Maquis person pops up in "Defiant?" Good eye!
Yes, Keiko too, and Molly if we wanna really dig into it.
Can't forget Worf's son, Alexander.
We got mirrror Klingon of a forgotten Klingon from that one TNG episode? Nice.

She also appeared as Martok's wife, Sirella. (Shannon Cochran, I think was the actress' name.)

Goid point about Molly.

Alexander the character, yes. A different actor, though. (Yet again. Matc Worden ended up being the... third? Fourth one?)

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

She also appeared as Martok's wife, Sirella. (Shannon Cochran, I think was the actress' name.)

Goid point about Molly.

Alexander the character, yes. A different actor, though. (Yet again. Matc Worden ended up being the... third? Fourth one?)

For me, crossovers mean "same character," not "same actor." What's your take?

I believe we had 4 actors for Alexander: the kid who played him in the episode he was introduced in, the second kid who took over the role for subsequent appearances, future-Alexander from that one episode I never saw, and then DS9 Alexander.

 

[Farscape One]

Generally, I define as character rather than actor. Ideally, of course, you'd have the same actor play the part.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

Generally, I define as character rather than actor. Ideally, of course, you'd have the same actor play the part.

True, true, but sometimes recasting just has to happen. This is why I say it's the "same Borg Queen" across her various appearances. Alice Krige in First Contact, Susanna Thompson on Voyager, Alice Krige back for the Voyager finale, Alice Krige voice cameo in a Lower Decks episode, Annie Wersching in PIC S2, back to Alice Krige as the voice of the Queen to close out PIC S3 with a body double. It's all the same character, just different actresses filling the shoes with the original coming and going.

 

[SithHappens]

Kurn showed up at one point.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

Kurn showed up at one point.

I forgot about Kurn! Was it just the one episode?

 

[Farscape One]

Only in "SONS OF MOGH", yes.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

Only in "SONS OF MOGH", yes.

Was that S4 or S5?

 

[Farscape One]

Season 4.

 

[SithHappens]

I forgot about Kurn! Was it just the one episode?

Just one, wasn't it where he wanted to kill himself? Tony Todd of course made more appearances

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

Just one, wasn't it where he wanted to kill himself? Tony Todd of course made more appearances

Yes, that's the one. Tony Todd, yes, but not as Kurn, is that right?

 

[Farscape One]

Only one other apearance on DS9 as old Jake in "THE VISITOR". Produced early season 4.

"SONS OF MOGH" was produced a little over halfway through the season.