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My Reaction to TOS in General, and a Shatner Story

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That ChatGPT summary is broadly accurate, and I will admit I have often defaulted to using the phrase "you know" in many conversations throughout my life. I didn't even realize I was doing it for the longest time, and then when I tried consciously suppressing it, nothing worked. So I just gave up, and decided if people couldn't decipher what I was trying to say, it wasn't my fault.
 
You know what would truly be easier for all concerned? Write the stuff down and post it right here -- in the thread -- where everyone can see it.

There are subjects which require a visual medium such as slideshow or video, because there's a visual element to be communicated.

With no visual element, however, video is perhaps the most inefficient and time-wasting medium for communicating verbal content. If you must make videos, then also provide a transcript -- so that your content may be consumed in a small fraction of the time it would take to watch the video of someone doing nothing but talking.
Aside from wanting to avoid repetition, another reason I don't type everything is because I can say it much faster, whereas a written transcript could easily be several paragraphs long. My mind has always been very detailed and expressive, so I guess its a bit of a catch-22 situation - the people who hate watching videos will complain that I don't write enough, and those who hate reading a lot will say I'm too long-winded. There's no winning for both sides, so I'm just doing what I feel is appropriate; shorter posts for brief comments and videos for longer ideas.
 
Taking criticism is a key component in a productive debate and verbal back-and-forth. Which means you're going to get flak for certain positions you hold and can't run and claim unfair treatment or worse if we find a religious, social or political view to be questionable or downright objectionable.

You can do your thing here, but if you shut out the audience or make it a one-sided exchange then you'll get the kind of reactions you won't be wanting.
 
Aside from wanting to avoid repetition, another reason I don't type everything is because I can say it much faster, whereas a written transcript could easily be several paragraphs long. My mind has always been very detailed and expressive, so I guess its a bit of a catch-22 situation - the people who hate watching videos will complain that I don't write enough, and those who hate reading a lot will say I'm too long-winded. There's no winning for both sides, so I'm just doing what I feel is appropriate; shorter posts for brief comments and videos for longer ideas.
Repetition of what? It's a different medium.

Post the transcript and let the reader decide if its "too long".

Video is a visual medium. Talking head videos are the worst. I was watching some scientist drone on about the Denisovans last night. Had to turn it off. Use the medium!
 
Aside from wanting to avoid repetition, another reason I don't type everything is because I can say it much faster, whereas a written transcript could easily be several paragraphs long. My mind has always been very detailed and expressive, so I guess its a bit of a catch-22 situation - the people who hate watching videos will complain that I don't write enough, and those who hate reading a lot will say I'm too long-winded. There's no winning for both sides, so I'm just doing what I feel is appropriate; shorter posts for brief comments and videos for longer ideas.
Type a few key points. Not everything. Then a back-and-forth starts. Then you can dole out more. Once you post something in the thread, you can point back to the post afterwards. Then they can go back and read it if you provide a link. I do it all the time.

As far as pushback for opinions: I can give as good as I get, and so can you... except you're not going to have to worry about that here. Not a lot of controversy surrounding TOS Movies. 99.9% of the time, any disagreements about those movies are friendly. There's a lot of controversy about Star Trek when it's recent or current, always has been and always will be, but that's not really the case with something that came out 40 years ago.

EDITED TO ADD: Just start with one thing about what your opinion is. It doesn't need to be a lot, just one thing. It'll be enough to get the ball rolling, and then it'll go (or won't go) from there.
 
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Well, that’s one good use of AI tools that I can think of; I asked ChatGPT to generate a summary of the video. If anyone feels they like to discuss the “points” being made in the video …

- didn't know chatgpt could do that.
- best use of AI ever
- glad i didn't spend my time watching it.


thank you. that was entertaining.
 
Aside from wanting to avoid repetition, another reason I don't type everything is because I can say it much faster, whereas a written transcript could easily be several paragraphs long. My mind has always been very detailed and expressive, so I guess its a bit of a catch-22 situation - the people who hate watching videos will complain that I don't write enough, and those who hate reading a lot will say I'm too long-winded. There's no winning for both sides, so I'm just doing what I feel is appropriate; shorter posts for brief comments and videos for longer ideas.

i can type as fast as i can think, so there is never a situation for me that a video is quicker than reading or typing lol. (120wpm, i learned typing in 3rd grade and its literally a reflex that i don't have to think about.) Texting is sluggish and slow, if i'm not on a desktop, I will only use talk to text.
 
i can type as fast as i can think, so there is never a situation for me that a video is quicker than reading or typing lol. (120wpm, i learned typing in 3rd grade and its literally a reflex that i don't have to think about.) Texting is sluggish and slow, if i'm not on a desktop, I will only use talk to text.
Shit. You got me beat. In my school system, we didn't use any computers until junior high (a.k.a. "middle school"). We went over typing a little bit, but it was mostly poking until I took a Keyboarding course in high school. Later on, in the flip-phone days, I hated texting. Hated it. I don't mind it now with smart phones and their keyboard-lookalike layout.
 
Shit. You got me beat. In my school system, we didn't use any computers until junior high (a.k.a. "middle school"). We went over typing a little bit, but it was mostly poking until I took a Keyboarding course in high school. Later on, in the flip-phone days, I hated texting. Hated it. I don't mind it now with smart phones and their keyboard-lookalike layout.
they started teaching us in 3rd grade on Apple IIs every monday. A program with a little orange cat had typing games and excercises that slowly added one or two letters at a time or rows at a time. By the time I hit 9th grade I could type faster then the teacher, passed the class the first day of school and got to type papers for him and play on the computer all year during Computer Studies. I can still go to one of the on-line typing programs and hit that with 95% accuracy.

Texting with letters-attatched-to-a-number was OBNOXIOUS.
 
And how would we all respond the the ideas or opinions in a video? Do we have to transcribe the relevant part so that we can discuss it?
Many of the videos on my YouTube account have the option for leaving comments, though for this one the website decided otherwise on its own (not sure why). I set the category as "okay for kids" when I uploaded it, and I didn't include an age restriction...so that response from them does puzzle me a bit.

To answer your question more directly, I would never expect someone to sit there and transcribe every word I say; that would be an insulting waste of time for them. But most of my stuff is pretty easy to understand; all you really need is a modicum of patience. Its not like I'm asking folks to watch me talk for 30 minutes or longer, at least most of the time.
 
Aside from wanting to avoid repetition, another reason I don't type everything is because I can say it much faster, whereas a written transcript could easily be several paragraphs long.
Were you not paying attention to the part where I said "so that your content may be consumed in a small fraction of the time it would take to watch the video of someone doing nothing but talking"?

However much time it takes you to say a thing, it can be read by most people in less than 25% of that time.

While you may not be able to type it as quickly as you can say it*, let me assure you that reading text on a screen goes much faster than watching a video of someone speaking the same thing aloud.

Yes, even if they're tightly scripted and rehearsed for pacing and are careful to edit all of the "um"s and "ah"s and pauses and "you knows" out before uploading the video.

Reading is much faster.

You might be surprised how much a bit of practice can do to improve that, btw.
 
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