everyone do a saucer separation
Now we have 80 ships instead of 40
Locutus is screwed
ADM Hanson is dum
Now we have 80 ships instead of 40
Locutus is screwed
ADM Hanson is dum
My battle startegy for Wolf 359
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Never really understood what the advantage of saucer separation would be in the first place. Except for evacuating civilians, that is, and perhaps the ship becomes more agile and smaller, allowing for stronger shields?
And what about ships that couldn't do a saucer separation, like the Miranda class?
The Borg took care of separating any ship at Wolf 359.
The Borg separated 40 ships for sure...
...but if only the Federation had sent 47 ships...
If Joe Menosky had written those episodes, maybe....
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If a starship is designed to be separated in combat situation then it makes sense to use that ability.
But if a ship, like Enterprise-D in TBOBW, isn't designed that way it would be less powerfull in combat when separated?
Riker said to Shelby that he didn't want to separate the ship in case they needed power from the saucer's impulse engines.
Basically ship like Enperise-D is more powerfull as a single unit, saucer and stardrive section separately can't match that level in combat situation?
But if a ship, like Enterprise-D in TBOBW, isn't designed that way it would be less powerfull in combat when separated?
Riker said to Shelby that he didn't want to separate the ship in case they needed power from the saucer's impulse engines.
Basically ship like Enperise-D is more powerfull as a single unit, saucer and stardrive section separately can't match that level in combat situation?
I know that, but, to repeat my question, what's the advantage in doing so?Multi-vector assault mode
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You may have a squadron of smaller ships now rather than a single large ship, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily harder for the opponent to combat or defeat them.
I was always confused in Encounter at Farpoint how they meant for the saucer to escape. They were running away at maximum speed. I believe the main section has a faster maximum speed than the saucer section. They detonated torpedoes to blind the pursuer to the separation. For this strategy to work, the saucer would need to change course fast, putting it far the main section after the torpedo detonation is done.
................maybe all the crewmembers on the destroyed ships had been turned into energy beings who had attacked the Borg cubes and destroyed them.
In season 1 (I think Heart of Glory) they say that without the saucer the star drive is an exceptional weapon or something like that, that seemed ti imply the saucer was a drag on resources and not necessarily an asset during battle and it makes sense, if the main purpose of separation was to get civilians to safety the ship would not be designed in a way that the star drive would be at a disadvantage without it because fighting without the saucer should in theory be standard unless it's a surprise attack.
My pet theory is that Riker decided to be a contrarian in TBOBW because he didn't like Shelby and it was her suggestion and Picard didn't want to tell him off in front of her so he put the idea aside for the moment but kept it as an option.
But we see numerous times in the franchise that ships seem to do worse against more enemy vessels even of they aren't that strong on their own. One reason might be that when they fight a single enemy ship they can put more energy into the shields facing the enemy because the other side is unlikely to be hit directly. If the enemy ship separates you suddenly have two ships attacking from two sides and the two ships wouldn't necessarily be weaker than the combined ship. There's no indication for example that the saucer's main phasers are less effective without the star drive attached.
Now imagine a fleet of 40 ships separating into 80 (or 60 if not all have that ability), suddenly you have way more attack vectors, this could be a big advantage. Maybe not against the borg because if they cut through 40 ships without taking damage I'm not sure more would have made a difference but in general it would be a good tactic.
I don't read anything about the plan for the saucer being to escape.
Perhaps even in this way:
(Or at least, that's how it might have gone down were it made today.)
I’m actually curious: Would sacrificing a few hulls by evacuating their crews and ordering the ships’ computers to ram the Cube at warp speed have worked? (I’m assuming not, simply because no one in-universe tried it, but what do folks think?)
EDIT: Of course, that wouldn’t be workable if the Borg did the smart thing and sent multiple Cubes instead of just one, since then you’re whittling away your own fleet. But for an attack consisting of just one Cube, why not?
EDIT: Of course, that wouldn’t be workable if the Borg did the smart thing and sent multiple Cubes instead of just one, since then you’re whittling away your own fleet. But for an attack consisting of just one Cube, why not?
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