That always confused me to no end. I guess they wanted them to look different, so audiences wouldn't confuse the movies with TNG, and they wouldn't have to spend much money.
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That always confused me to no end. I guess they wanted them to look different, so audiences wouldn't confuse the movies with TNG, and they wouldn't have to spend much money.
Would have been better to modify the shirts. Rank pins, combadge ,extra piping or something. Without the shirts they make the characters look like they dressed in a hurry and in the dark.
I guess "out of uniform" regulations are not strictly enforced any moreWould have been better to modify the shirts. Rank pins, combadge ,extra piping or something. Without the shirts they make the characters look like they dressed in a hurry and in the dark.
It's somewhat amusing that they went the cheapest route (I guess) and just dispensed with the undershirts altogether. Myself, I would have sprung for some kind of shirts, preferably different from the movie versions and perhaps something more consistent with the TNG division color scheme. Put some effort into it, at least!Would have been better to modify the shirts. Rank pins, combadge ,extra piping or something. Without the shirts they make the characters look like they dressed in a hurry and in the dark.
DS9 created the Maquis. TNG used them for their next to last episode (#24), "Preemptive Strike".
"THE MAQUIS" two-parter was produced as the 20 and 21st episodes of DS9 and aired a few weeks before that TNG episode.
(You might be confusing "Journey's End" with the Maquis, but while it was a border planet, they weren't Maquis.)
You're damn right they did. TV is expensive. And TNG was VERY expensive. (So was TOS.)
Andrew Probert was reportedly upset that TNG was using "78 year old" ships as the D's contemporaries. But really: ILM models they didn't have to pay for! And by some accounts it was his objections to the use and scale of Spacedock in 11001001 (DAMN it why do I have that memorized?!?) that got him canned. (Or at least it was another straw on the camel.) Does it make sense? It does if you get one of the most gorgeous shots on TV because Star Trek III already took care of the bill!
TNG had something TOS almost never had: Lots of things that were PAID for. So hell yes they're using old stuff.
I mean, I hedged it a little. Deleting a shirt saves money, but maybe gonna have to use a little more makeup on that skin? 
Could be worse. I have “1 7 3 4 6 7 3 2 1 4 7 6 Charlie 3 2 7 8 9 7 7 7 6 4 3 Tango 7 3 2 Victor 7 3 1 1 7 8 8 8 7 3 2 4 7 6 7 8 9 7 6 4 3 7 6 — lock” memorised because of that bloody Pogo song…
I guess, from my perspective, the cost of a half-dozen shirts (that themselves can be reused down the line), seems trivial.
Here's something potentially controversial..... Dave Blass, the production designer on Picard season 2 & 3.
There's just something about him that I just don't like.... Anyone who follows him on Twitter has probably seen him in recent days begging Elon Musk for a job. Other times, he's come off as egotistical and entitled.
He also seems to be living entirely off his 15 minutes of fame from Picard season 3. Which, I'm not even sure why that made him seemingly popular. The production design from Picard season 3 mostly seemed to consist of an overly dark Bridge design that I personally found rather uninspired. An alien market set that we saw way too much of. Some corridors, and a rather dull Borg set. Oh, and the Bridge of the Enterprise-D, which he can't really take credit for.
I'm sure I'm in the minority on this matter. It was mostly the Musk shit that set this off and made me remember other things I've seen of him online.
There's just something about him that I just don't like.... Anyone who follows him on Twitter has probably seen him in recent days begging Elon Musk for a job. Other times, he's come off as egotistical and entitled.
He also seems to be living entirely off his 15 minutes of fame from Picard season 3. Which, I'm not even sure why that made him seemingly popular. The production design from Picard season 3 mostly seemed to consist of an overly dark Bridge design that I personally found rather uninspired. An alien market set that we saw way too much of. Some corridors, and a rather dull Borg set. Oh, and the Bridge of the Enterprise-D, which he can't really take credit for.
I'm sure I'm in the minority on this matter. It was mostly the Musk shit that set this off and made me remember other things I've seen of him online.
I don't enough know who he is beyond what was shared in various art threads.
I have made a far greater conscious effort to distance myself from creator comments, save for commentary or interviews, when it comes to the media I enjoy. I do not care about a creator's political beliefs, I do not care about their opinions on various topics, and I do not care about their current status, employment, or otherwise.
These are people who just don't need my attention.
I'm not sure putting Picard on his resume is going to earn him a lot of work. Comes into the office, to show off his work, and it is just a series of completely black photos.
I'm not sure how I ended up with my earlier post but the roots of the Cardassian problems can be traced back to season 4 of STNG, Cardassians and Federation colonies didn't seem to get along very well.
(The Wounded)
Then there was season 5 episode that introduced Ro Laren and we got to know about what the Cardassians had been up to in Bajor.
(Ensign Ro)
Shoot, just using the existing movie uniform undershirts with insignia and rank pins would have looked better.
I've probably posted this before, but really they should have just set TNG twenty or so years after the TOS movies in the early 24th Century, and had it actually be the "next" generation. The additional sixty years in the future doesn't really add anything to the worldbuilding - everything is pretty much the same except the Klingons are sort of allies and Starfleet has gone through a few additional Enterprises. Make the 1701-D the 1701-B and you can tell all the same stories we got (except "Yesterday's Enterprise" I guess) with almost no changes and the production could have used as many movie assets they wanted without it seeming weird and cheap.
Huh. The more I think about it, the more I think you're right on both counts.
I may not forgive you for that...
Roddenberry didn't want people to be constantly asking when TOS characters would guest star. Aside from McCoy's unnamed and uncredited cameo in "Encounter At Farpoint" and the original 1701 getting a single passing mention in "The Naked Now" there's surprisingly few direct references to TOS for quite a long time in TNG. It's not until "Sarek", almost at the end of the third season, that any TOS characters are even referred to by name.
In fact the original plan early on in TNG's development was for the show to be set aboard the eighth USS Enterprise in the 25th century.
Spock and Amanda are mentioned by name in that episode during the mind meld, and there's a vague reference by Picard of attending the wedding of Sarek's "son." Whether that's Spock or some other child (e.g., could Sarek have had a child with Perrin?) that's never been revealed.
Since SNW, I know some people have wondered whether it might be Spock and Chapel, and they go the long way around and get together later in life.
I may not forgive you for that...
I have a strangely good memory for being able to remember long sequences of things as long as they're in song form. I can reel off Tom Lehrer's The Elements and Yakko's World from The Animaniacs at the drop of a hat. When I was studying biology at university one of my favourite textbooks was The Biochemist's Songbook by Harold Baum, and I can still remember all the words to some of these too.
Songs are good at helping memorize. Schoolhouse Rock is directly responsible for me knowing the Preamble to the US Constitution.
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