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Spoilers Lord of the Rings TV series
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A new featurette on IGN has revealed that the first scene of the new season will be a flashback set 1,000 years before the main part of the series, which features a different actor playing Sauron, Jack Lowden, and will also deal with the animosity between Adar and Sauron in the aftermath of Morgoth's defeat.
I think from the trailers it was clear that we'd see a flashback of that guy going rogue and "killing" Sauron, which I still think is stupid (he's not mortal, just stabbing him in the back shouldn't be able to kill him) but they already set up that in Season 1 so I guess it makes sense to pay it off.
*blinks in Grima stabbing Saruman*
Jack Lowden is one of the leads in the series Slow Horse (starring Gary Oldman), and is a great choice for flashback Sauron!
I’m so excited for S2!
Also, we see from one of the previous trailers, the moment when Adar ‘crowns’ Sauron, and inverts it down on Sauron’s head, Vallary (spikes) downwards onto his head (the act of betrayal, and when Adar ‘kills Sauron’!
I’m so excited for S2!
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Saruman was a maia shoved into basically a human form, much weaker then he was in Valinor. Same with all the wizards, they gave up almost all of their natural abilities when they were put into their wizard forms and went to Middle Earth. They are very impressive compared to men, dwarves and most elves, but they're only a shadow of what they originally were.
Sauron, especially before he makes The One Ring, has his full might from before Middle Earth even existed. He was the servant of Morgoth because Morgoth was a step above him on the (for lack of a better term) cosmic scale, as are all the Valar, but on Middle Earth, with Morgoth long gone, no single entity would be as powerful as sauron, especially before he split a lot of it off into his ring.
The closest Sauron comes to a physical defeat in the lore, pre rings, is when he fights Huan, a hound of Valinor, in werewolf form. But Huan was a very special hound, unaging and sentient, and basically prophesized to only die in one specific way that Sauron didn't match. Even then, the hound needed Luthien (the daughter of an Elf and a Maia) to help distract Sauron, and they basically reached a point where Sauron only surendered so he wouldn't have to waste time making a new physical form.
I just don't think that one guy stabbing him with metal in the back reaches the level where it could kill his physical body, especially when in the lore the only threates to his physical being were basically: a hound of the gods double teaming him with the help of the daughter of an entity that would be his equal in power, a massive army vs him alone (and even then he probably only surenderred to get access to Numenor), and a cataclysmic disaster brought about by Iluvatar (aka God).
Now after he makes the One Ring he puts so much of his power into it that it fundamentally changes him, its probably the reason that he can't retake a fair form after his physical body dies with Numenor and just becomes some armored up monster, but before that his body was not something that could just be killed like an average persons. Of course in the lore no one should be able to trick him and stab him in the back in the first place....
Well the Second Season Album is up on iTunes.
Yes, but I'm talking the films. In the book Saruman still has a form after his body is gone. The films offer a different interpretation.
So it might go in Rings of Power. We don't know without context.
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Isengard Incorporated?
It was still liquid.
Does that mean the Ents are hedge fund managers?
Are we going to start a new thread for the new season, or should we move on to page 134?
Spoilers - Rings of Power Season 2 Rating and Review and Discussion Thread: Spoilers inside.
This week features the premier of Rings of Power, Season 2. Sauron returns but different, and war is coming to Middle Earth.
www.trekbbs.com
The internet is, as ever, a wretched cesspool of childish hatred.
‘Rings of Power’ Star Morfydd Clark Was “Totally Unprepared” for Fan Hate Toward Galadriel
The actress, who plays the powerful elf in a way that upset some J.R.R. Tolkien fans, says that she wasn't expecting such intense social media criticism from the first season.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
QFT!
It’s likely the same ‘fans’ who have never read even a lick of Tolkien, and have a myopic view of what they think a character should be - while attempting to be the loudest gongs on the proverbial internet.
Let me leave this here, for everyone who wants to see Clark’s Galadriel meting out justice to said ‘fans’…
Even if someone doesn't like the show or the shows portrayal of a character (and I personally like the show and Galadriel, even if the show is objectively a bad adaptation), harassing an actor that has literally no power over the scripts is just moronic. No that anyone should be harassed, but wouldn't the showrunners/producers be the ones to complain about, not the actors who just work with what they're given?
Then again, if people who harassed other people over stupid things online thought rationally they wouldn't be doing it in the first place.
Then again, if people who harassed other people over stupid things online thought rationally they wouldn't be doing it in the first place.
Always remember the human.
The internet makes that difficult to do.
And humans are rarely rational over the stupid made up shit we take way too seriously. See all the "ruined" comments of different franchises over the years. No doubt someone complained that the "Wizard of Oz" was ruined by the Judy Garland portrayal since the shoes were silver in the book but ruby in the film because of the color film technology.
The internet makes that difficult to do.
And humans are rarely rational over the stupid made up shit we take way too seriously. See all the "ruined" comments of different franchises over the years. No doubt someone complained that the "Wizard of Oz" was ruined by the Judy Garland portrayal since the shoes were silver in the book but ruby in the film because of the color film technology.
Halbrand (knocks on door): Hey open up! A bunch of deranged elves are chasing me and I need shelter.
Tom Bombadil (opens door): All right come on in you lost human.
(Halbrand changes into Annatar)
Tom Bombadil: You're not a human!
Annatar: Hey you're supposed to be neutral remember? You sat out the War of Wrath so you're going to start taking sides now? (runs off)
Galadriel (suddenly appears out of nowhere): Bombadil, we're hunting a menace to the elves calling himself Halbrand, he's very dangerous. Have you seen him? Do you know what happened to him?
Tom Bombadil: I'm a neutral party remember, I don't get involved in your petty conflicts. And I don't violate the confidentiality of those who stayed under my hospitality.
Galadriel: ****
Tom Bombadil (opens door): All right come on in you lost human.
(Halbrand changes into Annatar)
Tom Bombadil: You're not a human!
Annatar: Hey you're supposed to be neutral remember? You sat out the War of Wrath so you're going to start taking sides now? (runs off)
Galadriel (suddenly appears out of nowhere): Bombadil, we're hunting a menace to the elves calling himself Halbrand, he's very dangerous. Have you seen him? Do you know what happened to him?
Tom Bombadil: I'm a neutral party remember, I don't get involved in your petty conflicts. And I don't violate the confidentiality of those who stayed under my hospitality.
Galadriel: ****
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