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Warp Drive soon reality?

More feasible is the possibility of detecting warp drives in use in the galaxy, possibly even in other nearby galaxies


Of course if there were an alien species anywhere near that advanced in the milky way one would wonder why they hadn't expanded to every corner of it. The chance of an alien species progressing that far but only in a window of the last few million years would be tiny.
 
Basically the article is saying it's still a looooooong way away.
We've known the theory behind warp drive for ages, but it was and still is a matter of materials we don't have and energy that is not available. Yes, we learn more every decade. But the idea of humanity going to other stars in a couple of decades, as some believe, is not going to happen.

Or, let me rephrase that. I can see them building a ship sturdy enough to go beyond our solar system somewhere this century. But it won't be a supership with artificial gravity and some form of FTL. It's going to be something like we saw in The Martian, and it's going to take decades to reach the closest star. And I mean 7 or 8 decades, not 2. Generational ships.

As a Trekkie, a scifi fan and space enthousiast, nothing would make me happier than believing I will live to see humans set foot on a planet outside of our solarsystem. But no, I won't. I doubt even a baby born this second will live to be old enough for that. I'll count myself lucky if I witness the first steps on Mars, and even extremely lucky if I witness a live action report of an astronaut describing the rings of Saturn in a live broadcast.
And yes, NASA and Elon and others are all blabbing about on how they'll make Mars happen in the 30's. War is basically the status quo right now, and no one will get enough funding to make that happen.
 
Well we have built "ships" capable of leaving the solar system -- we did that in the 1970s. Artificial gravity from a large spinning wheel it likely before we build generational ships.

I'd suggest the first test ones could be in place in the next 10 years (tether two dragon capsules together with a 4km long steel cable and a rotational velocity of 0.05 radians/second. The cable would need to be about 20 tons and be about 3cm across, that should provide about 1g in each capsule assuming that the dragons' structure can cope with it's mass being suspended at 1g from something near the docking port. There should be negligible difference in gravity between head and feet (about 5mm/s² when standing up)

That's a long way from a 4km wide rotating space-station, but it proves the point.

The problem with slower-than-light travel and intersteller travel is that you end up with generational ships, and you lose that planet bound culture. Once we can build a self sustaining colony ship, then we can build thousands.

But even at 5% of light speed that's 100 years between stars. Beyond the nearest dozen stars even radio waves will take 20+ years for a round trip.

When Europeans began to populate the Americas there was constant communication back and forward, even in the deep interior it would only be weeks for news to travel, not years. The environment people were in was basically the same, the timeframes were very human, and people traveled back and forth a lot.


Once the expansion wave starts pushing out across the galaxy (which is likely inevitable after the first few hundred colony ships have left) it won't stop, but in tens of millennia as the bow of the wave is 500 light years away from Earth, those that headed "north" and those that headed "south" will likely be a different species, let alone culture.

Humanities descendants may populate the galaxy, but it won't be a single civilization, not without FTL, and FTL means causality breaking
 
A subliminal albercube drive does not violate relativity or causality so that’s fine.

Whether it violates the laws of physics is a whole other problem, but from a physics point of view it would “simply” be a reactionless drive
 
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Why would anyone jump out of perfectly good spaceship? (where Earth = Spaceship.) I guess for the adventure! :shrug:
 
Short answer: No.

Sounds like it's still all theory, with requirements in materials and energy that far exceed our abilities for the moment. (Plus I despise their use of an AI-generated image that has no basis in anything they're doing.)
The power requirements have been lowered from universe to planet jupiter equivalent and finally to a more manageable nuclear fission power plant equivalent WITHOUT needing exotic matter (in 2021 for the latest if I'm not mistaken).

An arguably more complex thing now is to try and create a Warp bubble... that will still take a bit of time, but with accelerating AI development and AI being used in R&D in various fields, it will likely not be too long before we are ready for small scale practical tests.

This will also depend on the funding, but given that the science has now moved into an area that has real merit, I think the actual funding will increase.
 
I am half-way hoping Planet Nine is a Neptune mass black hole.

Rocket a craft near it, deploy a tether towards it while doing a burn and slingshot out at higher sublight--maybe.

As good as it will get I am afraid.
 
I am half-way hoping Planet Nine is a Neptune mass black hole.

Rocket a craft near it, deploy a tether towards it while doing a burn and slingshot out at higher sublight--maybe.

As good as it will get I am afraid.
I'm confused. Am I missing some sort of physics unique to black holes? If the black hole and Neptune are the same mass and therefore the same gravitational force, then slingshotting around either one should yield the same effect, and we know where Neptune is. :confused:
 
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