What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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It's neither a loophole nor the Prime Directive. TNG stated outright repeatedly that the Prime Directive also means not interfering with the internal affairs of space-faring races and at least once actually showcased the fact that it doesn't matter whether a primitive people is actually living on their native homeworld or not, the PD still applies.
And the 'Federation space' claim is complete and utter BS as a concept. It's the Federation moving into a house they think is abandoned without bothering to check whether someone else already lives in the basement, then claiming that that somehow gives them the right to control the lives of the people who lived in the basement before they ever got there.
The entire plot is just pure nonsense from top to bottom.
My controversial opinion, INS puts the UFP in the same positions as 16th to 19th century European colonisers. Stick a flag on inhabited land and claim it. The Baku lived there from when Archer was in nappies.
GAMESTERS OF TRISKELION is a classic.
I have always liked that one, too. I think it's much better than many seem to say.
I did not know this. Thank you for sharing. Interesting.
I had to split Joker into three sessions.
Me too. Finally I found it really disappointing. Incredibly tame and nothing to say that isn’t trite or obvious.
‘If we don’t take care of the mentally Ill, they may become dangerous to society’
Wow. Gosh. Yes. How deep.
I thought Phoenix was tremendous in it, but otherwise it was a very predictable movie. It has a superficial ‘Taxi Driver’ Sheen that distracts from the fact it has so little to say.
Stylish movie, but really empty.
Anyway.
CONTROVERSIAL OPINION:
I don’t like PRO. I’ve tried to watch it thrice now. The first time I never went back after episode 1. The second I got as far as 3. The third I did 1 again and thought… ‘I’m not enjoying this’ and stopped.
I wish I could see what so many see on this board ‘cause I see so many smart posters singing its praises, but it leaves me absolutely cold.
I've only seen one episode of Season 2 in three weeks, so we're in the same boat. I won't go so far as to say I don't like it, but it'll be slow-going, start-and-stop.
It’s a very odd situation for me.
I absolutely cannot point my finger at any one aspect of it and say it’s ‘bad’. The overall design of the show is great. The characters are really distinctive and well cast. If it’s a little kiddified, fine, that was the target audience.
I don’t know if I’m having the same reaction to it that I had to Firefly. I came to that show long after it was dead and buried and because I knew it wasn’t going anywhere, I couldn’t invest in it.
It’s like I don’t want to like PRO, because I know if I fall in love with it, it’ll leave me sooner rather than later.
You know how "Hero Ships" can be destroyed, they can always build a newer/better version.
Dead Characters sometimes stay dead, unless there is plot armor or contrivance to revive them.
But usually you have to go through alot of hoops to make that happen.
Making a new "Hero Ship" isn't nearly as hard of a thing to do.
We know that StarFleet is constantly pumping out new ships.
It was the 13th episode of the first season that finally won me over. After that, I never looked at the show the same way again.
I understand this.
You’ve snipped one line from a much larger post and presented it bereft of its original context.
I’m not sure what you’re trying to say or even if you agree with me or not.
Basically, you can have Tension, even with the destruction of the "Hero Ship".
Usually in Star Trek, the "Hero Ship" is considered just as important of a character as any actual human actor.
So killing it off or the threat of killing it will create tension and the eventual destruction does create Tension.
When we lost the Enterprise-D's StarDrive section, that was a sad day for many of us who are fans of the Galaxy Class.
Even Trek Central has a meme about "Poor Star-Drive".
Okay.
While I don't think it is a bad show, this is largely how I feel about Strange New Worlds. I watched the first season, nothing about it made me want to come back for a second, especially as they add more and more legacy characters.
he’s one to circle back to Picard.
In season 1, instead of quitting out of protest he should have been discharged from Starfleet for assembling a fleet of ships to help with the evac against orders to stand down.
Maybe he gets arrested and instead of going to a penal colony they let him off with basically house arrest at his Chateau.
Raffi and Rios could have been two of his officers on the Enterprise (or Captains of other ships) that get discharged along with him that he gets to help with Soji.
But the point is to have him go down swinging…trying to make a difference. Instead of just quitting.
In season 1, instead of quitting out of protest he should have been discharged from Starfleet for assembling a fleet of ships to help with the evac against orders to stand down.
Maybe he gets arrested and instead of going to a penal colony they let him off with basically house arrest at his Chateau.
Raffi and Rios could have been two of his officers on the Enterprise (or Captains of other ships) that get discharged along with him that he gets to help with Soji.
But the point is to have him go down swinging…trying to make a difference. Instead of just quitting.
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Not liking this... House arrest isn't something I'd have liked to have seen, and I don't think I'm alone with that opinion. Hence the "Controversial" on your part.
I think Picard was boxed in. He threatened to resign and Starfleet called his bluff. He had to leave or Starfleet Command would never take his protests seriously again. They'd think he'd do whatever they say no matter what.
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Picard was pretty much Gene Roddenberry during the NBC scheduling of the third season.Not liking this... House arrest isn't something I'd have liked to have seen, and I don't think I'm alone with that opinion. Hence the "Controversial" on your part.
I think Picard was boxed in. He threatened to resign and Starfleet called his bluff. He had to fold or Starfleet Command would never his protests seriously again. They'd think he'd whatever they say no matter what.
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