What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[Grendelsbayne]

Controversial Opinion:

Even though I'm not deeply enthralled by the concept of SF Academy at all and actually did enjoy the first 2 seasons of Picard more than most of DSC, if I were in charge of the franchise I would still pick this spin-off over any Picard spin-off*.

The plain and simple fact is whatever issues DSC had with plotting and bringing stories to a satisfying conclusion, when it comes to making new, memorable characters that would actually be worth following to a spin-off show DSC has always blown Picard out of the water. Even with this show mainly just promising Tilly in a potentially less than great environment, that's still way more interesting to me than any show based on Jack Crusher and Sidney La Forge no matter what the show's about.

*Unless giving Seven of Nine her own show entirely separate from Picard is counted as a Picard spin-off, but it shouldn't be.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

Unless giving Seven of Nine her own show entirely separate from Picard is counted as a Picard spin-off, but it shouldn't be.

All the shows are TOS spin-offs.

 

[Tallguy]

I don’t know any of the actors…

Also her acting has a certain... Elasticity.

 

[1001001]

Also her acting has a certain... Elasticity.

 

[Rowdy Roddy McDowall]

Also her acting has a certain... Elasticity.

Rubber-bandish and snappy in a good way.

 

[Tallguy]

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2:20 - "Bobby Bobby Bobby Bobby Bobby Bobby Bobby Bobby Bobby"

 

[at Quark's]

Agree. Any show they set on a space station from now on will have something in common with both of those, unless they intentionally decide to write something completely different.

I do find the coincidences in names, specifically Leeta/Lyta and Dukat/Dukhat interesting, though.

Likewise the non-corporeal Prophets/Pah'wraiths and Vorlons/Shadows, even if the Shadows are intradimensional rather than non-corporeal, but to corporeal beings that makes little difference. (The fact that Species 8472 look like grayish Shadows is no coincidence, the CGI was done by the same company and they used the wireframe set of the Shadows as a base for Species 8472.)

Two writers wrote for both shows, the legendary Dorothy Fontana and Marc Scott Zicree, but the plotlines have nothing in common.

I've seen DS9 several times, B5 just once in its entirety.

When watching B5 I felt both shows had a very similar 'vibe' even if the stories weren't similar in all details. Perhaps B5 was a shade more infused with Grand Ideas (which didn't necessarily make it a better show).

While I was utterly captivated by DS9, I was less so by B5. But I don't think it was B5's fault. I had become less receptive, perhaps more cynical.

Simply because I was around 20 when I watched DS9, and around 40 when I watched B5. So I had more life experience then, and I had more knee-jerk reactions like 'yes, this makes for good old-fashioned theatrical Grand Drama, but real life usually doesn't work out that way, has a way of exhausting and/or sidelining people that are driven by such Grand Ideals', and such, which made it more difficult for me to be absorbed in the storyline.

Odds are, had I seen DS9 in my forties for the first time, I would have responded similarly to DS9.

 

[Lord Garth]

I've seen DS9 several times, B5 just once in its entirety.

When watching B5 I felt both shows had a very similar 'vibe' even if the stories weren't similar in all details. Perhaps B5 was a shade more infused with Grand Ideas (which didn't necessarily make it a better show).

While I was utterly captivated by DS9, I was less so by B5. But I don't think it was B5's fault. I had become less receptive, perhaps more cynical.

Simply because I was around 20 when I watched DS9, and around 40 when I watched B5. So I had more life experience then, and I had more knee-jerk reactions like 'yes, this makes for good old-fashioned theatrical Grand Drama, but real life usually doesn't work out that way, has a way of exhausting and/or sidelining people that are driven by such Grand Ideals', and such, which made it more difficult for me to be absorbed in the storyline.

Odds are, had I seen DS9 in my forties for the first time, I would have responded similarly to DS9.

It'll be interesting to see how my experience compares to yours, since I was in my teens when I saw DS9, and am in my mid-40s watching B5. Even after having only seen "The Gathering", I can already tell this isn't a show I would've gotten into during my teens.

So, I think I'm watching B5 at the right time. Okay, not exactly the right time; I don't think it would've made much of a difference if I watched B5 at 25 instead of 45, and no difference at all from about 30 onward, but better late than never.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

CONTROVERSIAL OPINION

Babylon 5 isn’t even half as good as it’s made out to be.

 

[BillJ]

CONTROVERSIAL OPINION

Babylon 5 isn’t even half as good as it’s made out to be.

Which makes DS9 a total waste of time.

 

[Commander Troi]

This is where I fell in love with Holly Hunter:

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[Danja]

I don’t know any of the actors…

Giamatti is known for drinking merlot. #Sideways

Holly Hunter:

#TheIncredibles #Elastigirl

 

[Daedalus]

Copycat, with the sci-fi legend Sigourney Weaver.

 

[Lord Garth]

In my ideal world, Discovery's fifth season would've been the previously-standard 13 episodes instead of the now-standard 10. Then two more episodes would've been added to close out the series, dealing with you-know-what.

Bringing the total episode count to 70. That way, Discovery still wouldn't have had seven seasons, but it would've had seven seasons' worth of episodes split up between the five they had.

Probably "Unpopular" because I want the season to be longer when everyone else is demanding, "Shorter! Shorter! Shorter!"

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

Probably "Unpopular" because I want the season to be longer when everyone else is demanding, "Shorter! Shorter! Shorter!"

People want shorter seasons because it seems like an obvious solution to storylines feeling dragged out. I don't think it really works out that way, however. Personally, I think a 13-15 episode season 5 that was split between the s5 arc and the story we didn't get in s6 could've worked out great.

 

[Lord Garth]

People want shorter seasons because it seems like an obvious solution to storylines feeling dragged out. I don't think it really works out that way, however. Personally, I think a 13-15 episode season 5 that was split between the s5 arc and the story we didn't get in s6 could've worked out great.

10 episodes of what we had and 5 episodes of the other thing is a combination I would've liked as well.

Like the way Better Call Saul Season 6 was broken up between the first nine episodes and then the last four.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

10 episodes of what we had and 5 episodes of the other thing is a combination I would've liked as well.

Like the way Better Call Saul Season 6 was broken up between the first nine episodes and then the last four.

Still have to watch Season 6 of that. Thanks for the reminder.

 

[Lord Garth]

Still have to watch Season 6 of that. Thanks for the reminder.

It's even better than Season 5. I didn't think that was possible. Episodes 3 and 7 in particular. That's all I'll say.

 

[eschaton]

Babylon 5 and DS9 are fundamentally very, very different works, because the former is plot-based writing, while the latter is overwhelmingly based upon character and theme.

Yeah, the Dominion War is there, and a major portion of the later seasons, but it's largely a means towards exploring the human condition. Except for during the big serialized turns at the beginning of Season 6 and the end of Season 7, it's not there to be the core entertaining part of the show in and of itself.

 

[fireproof78]

People want shorter seasons because it seems like an obvious solution to storylines feeling dragged out. I don't think it really works out that way, however. Personally, I think a 13-15 episode season 5 that was split between the s5 arc and the story we didn't get in s6 could've worked out great.

I want shorter because time demands of life mean less time for Trek and other entertainment. I didn't even get to finish my movie last night