Spoilers ST Prodigy - StarShips & Technology Season 2 Discussion
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Ah, that helps, thanks!
Prodigy has a weird record for placement of its registry numbers. VoyAger doesn't seem to have anything on the ventral saucer, and the Prodigy class keeps everything on the driver's side of the dorsal for some reason.
Mark
Prodigy has a weird record for placement of its registry numbers. VoyAger doesn't seem to have anything on the ventral saucer, and the Prodigy class keeps everything on the driver's side of the dorsal for some reason.
Mark
To me, that doesn't specifically make much sense because we know from VOY as mentioned by Tom Paris that Deuterium can be easily found anywhere (VOY only had issues with it in the DQ once because the ship was at warp constantly [plus it was attacked frequently] and didn't have a viable source of it on their given route (until they found a Demon class planet).
Its possible that some smaller sections of quadrants in the Milky Way don't necessarily have large deposits but it can otherwise be found abundantly or fairly easily synthesized.
That can be easily fixed by simply canonizing the premise that when Disco went through the wormhole, it jumped to an alternate future (one with very similar history to the Prime Timeline, but an otherwise very different actual future).
In fact, I've seen an article or two saying this could easily solve most 'issues' people have with Disco from S3 onward - funny, because I mentioned this exact option about a year ago myself as a fairly good solution to keep the future of Trek open (and maybe actually see UFP ADVANCING at an exponential pace quickly as a result - nothing like that was shown in Disco - or at least time travel tech was indicative of this, and then the Temporal Accords shut it all down - which is fine because you can still have ridiculously advanced non-temporal UFP tech that Disco never bothered showing or advancing).
Other than that, its possible that in the Disco universe version of history (if it indeed jumped to an alternate future), the Proto Warp was never invented or it failed for whatever silly reason they might want to think of (aka, handwaved away much like everything else in S3).
If however Disco did jump to the prime timeline future and not an alternate future (which would be a significant bummer), then Burnham already said in S3 of Disco (or rather the writers through her 'handwaved' everything in the past as 'non viable' - no further explanation was given).
At this point, I really hope Prodigy pushes Disco 32nd century into alternate future and then we have a clean slate in the Prime Timeline where the Burn never happens, and UFP long abandons Dilithium and M/AM for several other working power sources they discovered as fully working and just ended up doing some R&D to work out the final bugs by the early/ mid 25th century).
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That's what it looks like to me too.
I wonder though if we'll get to see it in actual use in the future or not.
Nope. Not in Prodigy S2, anyway. Nor is the potential shuttle under the torpedo blister.
The Infinity was a prototype that was appropriated for the VoyAger crew to fly into the wormhole they were investigating. They were then forbidden from doing it once it was discovered it was a temporal anomaly, but of course the kids have other plans...
The actual VoyAger shuttle is seen here and there, and notably has an aft compartment with a table in it. As noted previously, it may also be exceptionally long-ranged or fast, as it delivers Gwyn all the way "home" in the first couple episodes before being destroyed.
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The Infinity was a prototype that was appropriated for the VoyAger crew to fly into the wormhole they were investigating. They were then forbidden from doing it once it was discovered it was a temporal anomaly, but of course the kids have other plans...
The actual VoyAger shuttle is seen here and there, and notably has an aft compartment with a table in it. As noted previously, it may also be exceptionally long-ranged or fast, as it delivers Gwyn all the way "home" in the first couple episodes before being destroyed.
Mark
Oh boy, in ENGLISH now! Random notes as I rewatch without having to translate in my head while simultaneously enjoying it. Most of these are based on dialogue:
- 201: We see the tribble reproduction problem can be solved with some apparently simple protein binding blockers. I'm guessing tribble prophylactics can be thing now? Eddie Larkin's efforts were hastily recognized though.
- 201: "Lamarr Special Class Science Vessel". That's a first - but the EMH notes ti's a refit, so there's possibly a "Lamarr Regular Class Science Vessel". Would it be less bumpy than what we see here? Zero just calls it "Lamarr-class" later on.
- 201: "Is that a slipstream?!"
- 201: I never noticed you can pull out the back of these PADDs to make a stand pop out.
- 201: According to some Starfleet text, Borg IS short for Cyborg.
- 201: The Inifinity is called a "Federation Support Courier - experimental". So I guess there are more regular Support Couriers out there, in or out of Starfleet use? It's not just a Runabout sort of thing?
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- 201: We see the tribble reproduction problem can be solved with some apparently simple protein binding blockers. I'm guessing tribble prophylactics can be thing now? Eddie Larkin's efforts were hastily recognized though.
- 201: "Lamarr Special Class Science Vessel". That's a first - but the EMH notes ti's a refit, so there's possibly a "Lamarr Regular Class Science Vessel". Would it be less bumpy than what we see here? Zero just calls it "Lamarr-class" later on.
- 201: "Is that a slipstream?!"
- 201: I never noticed you can pull out the back of these PADDs to make a stand pop out.
- 201: According to some Starfleet text, Borg IS short for Cyborg.
- 201: The Inifinity is called a "Federation Support Courier - experimental". So I guess there are more regular Support Couriers out there, in or out of Starfleet use? It's not just a Runabout sort of thing?
Mark
In "The Maquis" one of their ships was described as a courier, although I'm not sure it was every confirmed that it was one of the same ships that appeared later in the episode and then was reused as the Federation attack fighter. Still, the Infinity has a lot of the same style and design, so I assume that's the idea.
- 202: SeatBelts on the "Secret Courier Vessel" make their return.
Finally StarFleet has some common sense to implment them.
Finally StarFleet has some common sense to implment them.
Dialogue mentions that even though they function as cadets as we know them, Dal, his gang, and the Nova Squad are all pre-cadet status, looking for good deeds that will let them eventually join the Academy. I'm not sure how this works..? They seem to exist in some sort of limbo that allows them to have cadet status and contribute to the ship's workings, without actually having been to Starfleet Academy.
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Sounds like Wesley. Wasn't he a "Provisional Ensign" that had full access to starship operations before he was actually a SFA cadet?
Eaves designed the Protostar. I don’t know who designed the Voy-A.
I mean, the Voy-A is really not an innovative design, is it? It's pretty much a hybrid amalgamation of Intrepid & Sovereign parts, with a little Prometheus sprinkled in here and there.
Further, Janeway's Dauntless is pretty much a recycle of the original non-Fed Dauntless with some hull panels pulled up and out in relatively interesting directions. All other ships we've seen in the fleet have been established a long time ago. I am very pleased to see the Centaur finally get some real love, though.
The only new-looking ship that departs (again, relatively) from the norm is the Protostar.
And, to be fair, all of them look like they belong to the era in which they are being depicted. That's a big "plus" in my book, FWIW.
Further, Janeway's Dauntless is pretty much a recycle of the original non-Fed Dauntless with some hull panels pulled up and out in relatively interesting directions. All other ships we've seen in the fleet have been established a long time ago. I am very pleased to see the Centaur finally get some real love, though.
The only new-looking ship that departs (again, relatively) from the norm is the Protostar.
And, to be fair, all of them look like they belong to the era in which they are being depicted. That's a big "plus" in my book, FWIW.
It directly refers to them as Warrant Officers at one point in Season 2.
I’m also in the camp for Centaur love, although I totally think that the version they showed in PRO is a different class from the smaller version shown in DS9, despite having the same name and registry. However, I’m still stymied by the choice to use it when the other three ship classes (Sovereign, Akira, Defiant) were contemporaries and from that particular era, while the Centaur is a much older ship class. Someone on the production end of the show must also have had some Centaur love.
Yeah, that's why though I don't mind it at all, I also don't find it very special
They can't really win in that department. If they make a ship that is too different from what came before, people would be calling them out on that as well.
In real life, most naval ship classes follow a general design or configuration with only minor differences between them, IMO.
In real life, most naval ship classes follow a general design or configuration with only minor differences between them, IMO.
