Spoilers ST Prodigy - StarShips & Technology Season 2 Discussion
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In the first 3.5 episodes, nothing major that hasn’t been mentioned already. The Infinity gets a bang of an initial flight, and then Jankom gets to work on her. The exterior doesn’t really scream “Starfleet”, at all, though the aft has shades of the Maquis raider. Inside though, at least the bridge deck reminds me a bit of the Delta Flyer, if only abstractly.
Episode 1 has a Starfleet craft which looks like the 1989 Batwing, to the point where that’s what I’ll call em.
The cetacean crew members CAN look at other things besides the cold metal walls. They have to squint though.
Mark
Episode 1 has a Starfleet craft which looks like the 1989 Batwing, to the point where that’s what I’ll call em.
The cetacean crew members CAN look at other things besides the cold metal walls. They have to squint though.
Mark
Rok mentions feeding the dolphins at one point, so presumably they’re around.
I think the E-D had like 24 dolphins and two humpbacks as part of her crew, per the TNG:TM.
(EDIT: It was twelve bottlenose dolphins plus two orca "supervisors", whatever that means)
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I think the E-D had like 24 dolphins and two humpbacks as part of her crew, per the TNG:TM.
(EDIT: It was twelve bottlenose dolphins plus two orca "supervisors", whatever that means)
Mark
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Right next to the big rubber duck in the MSD. 
I've finished S2 of Prodigy. It's VERY good. I'll rewatch when the English dub comes out, and do more notes. But until then, here are some random notes, some without context, but with MEGASPOILER tabs because the final act of 2x20 sets up and fills in what follows in BIG ways:
- VoyaAger has quantum torpedoes!
- "Sonic toilets" are mentioned more than once. The one on the Infinity still operates with a classic flushing sound though, which I guess makes it sonic.
- I think this is the first time in Trek where two holodecks are seen functioning independently of each other in the same episode, with the sorta-exception of "The Killing Game" on VOY.
- The USS Cairo, NCC-42136 makes an appearance, and Jellico would NOT be happy.
- Five new variations of Kazon ships appear.
- We actually see Parises Squares!!
- The Protostar's original crew included Chakotay and Adreek (the feathery Aurelian), plus a Bolian, an Andorian, an Arboreal Xindi (!), what looks like an Edosian, and several other humans.
- Sadly, we now know what an Aurelian skeleton looks like.
- We also know what a Tribble's skeleton looks like. It's not how Edward described it, but it could be the subspecies of Tribble found / created.
- It seems deuterium simply isn't easy to find in the Trek universe, whereas antimatter can be created by one bird, a little portable tech, and a little sacrifice.
- The gang has to relight the proto-warp drive with a supply of bosonite, which is found easily enough on an infested planet in a side quest episode. If it was THAT easy, what does this mean for future warp? Is there a reason future ships don't have it? Or does its technology just become regular warp at some point?
- The fighters are called Nova Flyers. They fly the Mk II version, personally redesigned by one Lieutenant Paris.
- The Romulus evacuation fleet destroyed above Mars was 20,000 ships strong!! This makes it arguably the single largest loss of starships in Federation history. Voyager-A was apparently spared, and her new Captain helps set up the kids' next mission.
- We see the 2380s PIC uniforms, apparently new and being rolled out to Flag officers on Earth first (as well as Raffi , Icheb, and some security officers on Mars, it seems). They even offhandedly mention that resources are so tight, that they couldn't even roll out the new AGT combadges to half the fleet, thus explaining why the 2380s uniforms were using the later TNG versions.
- The USS Prodigy is the production model of the Protostar-class, called the "Protostar-class-A" in the French dub, and is optimized for exploration. It also comes with shiny new uniforms for the new crew, a functional proto-warp drive, an old hologram with a new "ECH" designation, and two command seats.
- "Sonic toilets" are mentioned more than once. The one on the Infinity still operates with a classic flushing sound though, which I guess makes it sonic.
- I think this is the first time in Trek where two holodecks are seen functioning independently of each other in the same episode, with the sorta-exception of "The Killing Game" on VOY.
- The USS Cairo, NCC-42136 makes an appearance, and Jellico would NOT be happy.
- Five new variations of Kazon ships appear.
- We actually see Parises Squares!!
- The Protostar's original crew included Chakotay and Adreek (the feathery Aurelian), plus a Bolian, an Andorian, an Arboreal Xindi (!), what looks like an Edosian, and several other humans.
- Sadly, we now know what an Aurelian skeleton looks like.
- We also know what a Tribble's skeleton looks like. It's not how Edward described it, but it could be the subspecies of Tribble found / created.
- It seems deuterium simply isn't easy to find in the Trek universe, whereas antimatter can be created by one bird, a little portable tech, and a little sacrifice.
- The gang has to relight the proto-warp drive with a supply of bosonite, which is found easily enough on an infested planet in a side quest episode. If it was THAT easy, what does this mean for future warp? Is there a reason future ships don't have it? Or does its technology just become regular warp at some point?
- The fighters are called Nova Flyers. They fly the Mk II version, personally redesigned by one Lieutenant Paris.
- The Romulus evacuation fleet destroyed above Mars was 20,000 ships strong!! This makes it arguably the single largest loss of starships in Federation history. Voyager-A was apparently spared, and her new Captain helps set up the kids' next mission.
- We see the 2380s PIC uniforms, apparently new and being rolled out to Flag officers on Earth first (as well as Raffi , Icheb, and some security officers on Mars, it seems). They even offhandedly mention that resources are so tight, that they couldn't even roll out the new AGT combadges to half the fleet, thus explaining why the 2380s uniforms were using the later TNG versions.
- The USS Prodigy is the production model of the Protostar-class, called the "Protostar-class-A" in the French dub, and is optimized for exploration. It also comes with shiny new uniforms for the new crew, a functional proto-warp drive, an old hologram with a new "ECH" designation, and two command seats.
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The PU physics is close to that of ours, so deuterium should be fairly easy to find, short of the plot requirements.
Plot features heavily - they borrow deuterium scarcity from Voyager, who had to search for such things as "deuterium ore" among strangeness. Here, they literally have to make a boat and sail to a deposit.
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No clue what deuterium ore is , short of a substance with high hydrogen content?
It's probably best not to dwell too much on such technobabble details that emerged from VOY's creatively bereft writing staff.
However, interestingly, MA has a curious blurb on DS9's use of deuterium refining:
However, interestingly, MA has a curious blurb on DS9's use of deuterium refining:
The implication here is that DS9's refinery is strictly for processing mineral ore, and they sought to repurpose it for deuterium. Maybe that's a thing after all? No other details about it that I can find though.
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This are so exciting! I wish we could've had a weekly episode release so every fact could be properly absorbed and Memory Alpha/Betafied.
Re: commbadges: So it sounds like PRO is doing some continuity damage-control with showing the AGT badges while PIC showed the TNG movie badges. And the move to the PIC 2380's uniforms seems to be more of the same.
Re: the Romulan evacuation fleet: I assumed that the only ships used for that fleet were the Wallenberg tugs. Are they implying that other ships like the Voyager-A were also being used for this job?
Re: the Romulan evacuation fleet: I assumed that the only ships used for that fleet were the Wallenberg tugs. Are they implying that other ships like the Voyager-A were also being used for this job?
Was the VOY-A even built yet?
The Wallenbergs were destroyed in 2385, but the Voyager-A could theoretically have been built at any time from when the first Voyager was lost in 2371 to then.
Eyup, and regarding the end of Prodigy and VoyAger...
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After effectively being the main ship for the first ten episodes and then one of a two-ship flotilla with the Protostar (rescued from a branched timeline, which is the plot for most of the second season) for the rest of it, Janeway moves on and Captain Chakotay takes the Voyager-A as his second command with Tysess as his XO. He even upgrades to the PRO Starfleet uniform.
After the Mars attacks he's seen at the sendoff for the new USS Prodigy, still in his PRO CO uniform and AGT badge. Janeway meanwhile has "upgraded" to the PIC flag officer's uniform, which strangely was seen on a guy in a VoyAger shuttle on Solum at the end of that story line. Animation error, or sneaky admiral?
After the Mars attacks he's seen at the sendoff for the new USS Prodigy, still in his PRO CO uniform and AGT badge. Janeway meanwhile has "upgraded" to the PIC flag officer's uniform, which strangely was seen on a guy in a VoyAger shuttle on Solum at the end of that story line. Animation error, or sneaky admiral?
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I'm not seeing an aeroshuttle silhouette here..?
But yeah, the torpedo blister sure looks copied from that of a Sovereign. Given the description of the Lamarr class' size (800 crew, and two schools suggesting a civilian complement or a capacity thereto), multiple auxiliary craft types should be feasible IMO. This ship never had a distinct mission profile, so it could easily be a jack of all trades "big hero ship" in the vein of a Sovereign or even a Galaxy.
Strangely enough though, probes seem to be launched from and unseen point on the secondary hull ventral. And while we're talking auxiliary craft, "Shuttlebay three" is located behind a nondescript panel on the SIDE of the secondary hull of VoyAger, more like a Mon Cal cruiser than an average Federation starship.
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But yeah, the torpedo blister sure looks copied from that of a Sovereign. Given the description of the Lamarr class' size (800 crew, and two schools suggesting a civilian complement or a capacity thereto), multiple auxiliary craft types should be feasible IMO. This ship never had a distinct mission profile, so it could easily be a jack of all trades "big hero ship" in the vein of a Sovereign or even a Galaxy.
Strangely enough though, probes seem to be launched from and unseen point on the secondary hull ventral. And while we're talking auxiliary craft, "Shuttlebay three" is located behind a nondescript panel on the SIDE of the secondary hull of VoyAger, more like a Mon Cal cruiser than an average Federation starship.
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