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That was my impression too until I watched the behind the scenes on YouTube.
I much prefer the more subtle approach like this where people are debating it exists or not instead of being slammed in the face repeatedly with it like in a couple of prior seasons with 13
I'm 8 days late to this topic, but I've got to agree with @jaime in not finding this episode to be very good, largely because the ending sucked all the life out of everything leading up to it by pushing a racism angle that A) didn't need to be there and B) doesn't actually have any build-up despite RTD trying to say that the lack of any diversity amongst the populace of Finetime should've been a clue.
1.5 out of 5 because the ending pretty much kills everything (it'd be just a 1 if not for Fifteen and Ruby recognizing that Lindy's mom looks like other people they've seen on their travels and the interesting twist on the standard Doctor Who storytelling format that it uses and that reminded me of Sleep No More, which is an episode that I like a lot more than most other people seem to despite not usually being a fan of 'found footage' films).
1.5 out of 5 because the ending pretty much kills everything (it'd be just a 1 if not for Fifteen and Ruby recognizing that Lindy's mom looks like other people they've seen on their travels and the interesting twist on the standard Doctor Who storytelling format that it uses and that reminded me of Sleep No More, which is an episode that I like a lot more than most other people seem to despite not usually being a fan of 'found footage' films).
I think the end of the episode was handled quite well, actually, and the Doctor's reaction was on-point. You can see his stunned and hurt reaction (in real time--goddamn if Ncuti Gatwa isn't a brilliant actor!) and then he pushed it aside to beg them to let him save them. I think that was far more poignant than him or Ruby giving them a lecture would have been. It also would make no sense in-universe: the people wouldn't have listened to them.
Am I the only one who wanted to see the Doctor visit these survivors in a week/month/year and ask if they were ready to accept his help after they experienced the struggle of literally living in the wild with minimal technology, useless dots, starving, filthy, sick, and no doubt losing people to disease, starvation, and the elements?
Two days should do it.
The first time they had to take a sh*t in the woods.
Well considering how they didn't know how to masticate without instructions, several of them would have starved to death before they had to uneat.
First time they had to see to business without their apps telling them it's time to. They're technically not toilet trained. I imagine many of them soiled themselves, being that unprepared.
To be fair Dot seemed to adjust quickly to walking without having to be told to put one foot in front of the other, but that's very different to surviving in the wilderness obviously! I'm not sure how many of them there were but I could see a (very) small percentage surviving, in the short term, although I imagine there'd be a lot of (fatal) trial and error.
"You know Emma, Carl and Viv all died after eating those pink berries, so maybe we shouldn't eat them.?"
Re the Doctor turning up in a few weeks, I dunno, how long does he give them and how many die in that time? In some respects "you had your chance" is better than dropping in every couple of weeks which seems unduly cruel (even for the racist dirtbags they were)
"You know Emma, Carl and Viv all died after eating those pink berries, so maybe we shouldn't eat them.?"
Re the Doctor turning up in a few weeks, I dunno, how long does he give them and how many die in that time? In some respects "you had your chance" is better than dropping in every couple of weeks which seems unduly cruel (even for the racist dirtbags they were)
Didn't really connect with this one. I think it was a combination of the simplistic, rather on-the-nose social media satire - though I did get a dark chuckle out of such a literal interpretation of an online bubble - the off-kilter tone and the sense of "intriguing ideas, not sold on the execution" I've had a couple times this series, here mostly derived from the near-total lack of context for the people and the world.
And yes, I completely missed the subtext, even at the end, partly white privilege, partly not being engaged enough to pick up on subtler details.
A lot of this is subjective, and I fully accept I'm likely not being fair on the ep because initial impressions distanced me from it. It still contributes to a personal feeling of, even with eps I really liked, stories that aren't being thought through or tied together quite enough this series, like the scripts could have done with another edit pass or two, the final checks and tweaks to properly distill and focus things.
And yes, I completely missed the subtext, even at the end, partly white privilege, partly not being engaged enough to pick up on subtler details.
A lot of this is subjective, and I fully accept I'm likely not being fair on the ep because initial impressions distanced me from it. It still contributes to a personal feeling of, even with eps I really liked, stories that aren't being thought through or tied together quite enough this series, like the scripts could have done with another edit pass or two, the final checks and tweaks to properly distill and focus things.
I just watched this and yeah it was as subtle as being hit in the face with a brick.. In the first 15 minutes I worked out the plot mostly.......
Can that planet be left to die?
You know that's an idea that could be possible but then that would also need the people of this time period to find time travel technology.... But Hey it's Dr. Who anything is possible.
Can that planet be left to die?
You know that's an idea that could be possible but then that would also need the people of this time period to find time travel technology.... But Hey it's Dr. Who anything is possible.
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