Spoilers Rogue grade and discussion thread

[Steve Roby]

Oh, I dunno. Speaking as a wholly objective observer, I think The Nth Doctor might be on the right track there.

 

[jaime]

And anyway, the universe has been rewritten by both the Time War and the explosion of the Tardis. Oh, and apparently the Toymaker's messed up the universe too. The most recent Doctors are effectively in a different universe from the one the earlier TV Doctors existed in. Everything is true, but at some points in the timeline some things overwrite others. Most of the time the cat in the box is neither and both alive and/or dead, but occasionally the wave function collapses and the cat is either Platt's Cybermen or Moffat's... and then the cat goes back in the box again, and next time the box is opened, there's a different answer.

Having never had the disposable income or time to partake of all big finish —how does the colony ship contradict spare parts? I’ve no familiarity with spare parts, but always assumed the contained nature of the ship and the doctors little aside about how it’s all happening in miniature on the ship as it also occurred elsewhere got rid of any continuity worries?

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

Having never had the disposable income or time to partake of all big finish —how does the colony ship contradict spare parts? I’ve no familiarity with spare parts, but always assumed the contained nature of the ship and the doctors little aside about how it’s all happening in miniature on the ship as it also occurred elsewhere got rid of any continuity worries?

Moffat went out of his way to not decanonize Spare Parts, saying that several of the Cybermen have different origins than others.

 

[jaime]

Moffat went out of his way to not decanonize Spare Parts, saying that several of the Cybermen have different origins than others.

That’s what I got from the episode, I think he says something about basically parallel evolution, Star Trek style? Probably helping clean up why the cybusmen team up with our usual mondasian and telosian splinter groups.

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

That’s what I got from the episode, I think he says something about basically parallel evolution, Star Trek style? Probably helping clean up why the cybusmen team up with our usual mondasian and telosian splinter groups.

It also mentioned a comic-book origin for the species, so yeah, parallel evolution.

Which I just love, on his part.

 

[jaime]

It also mentioned a comic-book origin for the species, so yeah, parallel evolution.

Which I just love, on his part.

I think it’s because he was more of a consumer than a producer in the wilderness years. RTD wrote for the NAs. Moffat strikes me as a fellow who bought his merch at time of release, whereas I heard from a very specific source that a decent chunk of those books on Rusty’s shelves in his vids have a receipt from about 2004. There’s no shame in wandering away from fandom etc, but the feeling Moffat just always stuck with it while he was busy getting married and having a career is very much there.

 

[CuriousCaitian]

Put me in the "fun fluff" camp. The Doctor-Rogue chemistry also cannot be denied; could cut the atmosphere between them with a knife. I particularly like that the nature of the attraction wasn't, as far as I saw, specified, leaving it open to the viewer's interpretation. Wish that was done more often.

I couldn't actually tell if the make-up was practical, digital or a blend of both, which to me makes it all the more impressive.