What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[fireproof78]

Star Trek, like any entertainment work, is hit and miss.

Even the shows I have limited to no interest in have their episodes that I'm like, "Yup, I'm going to watch it."

Enterprise: Demons and Terra Prime, absolutely.
Voyager: Equinox.
The Next Generation: Pegasus, Rascals, Next Phase and All Good Things.

TOS has some episodes I won't rewatch:
"Spock's Brain." No, I don't go for the "So bad its good" idea.
"And the Children Shall Lead."
"Catspaw." Never been a fan of witches and warlock motifs.
"Squire of Gothos" hit and miss but just underwhelming with the duel at the end.

But, that said, there are lot of TAS and TOS I'll watch before many of the spinoffs. Of course, that's true with Star Trek 2009 too and I'll watch that easily before TNG, VOY, or ENT.

tl:dr-It's complicated.

 

[1001001]

I'd rather watch season three of the original Star Trek vs. any of the spinoffs.

I’d rather watch any season of any spin-off, other than Picard, than season three of TOS.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

I'd rather watch season three of the original Star Trek vs. any of the spinoffs.

Oh, that's my continuing Star Trek viewing choice.

...and as much as I find TMP to be the opposite of what made TOS a phenomenon, i'd still watch it in a heartbeat over any of CBS/DISCO Trek.

 

[BillJ]

I’d rather watch any season of any spin-off, other than Picard, than season three of TOS.

Rude!

 

[1001001]

Rude!

You should hear what I was going to say….

 

[cooleddie74]

"TMP sucks"?

I mean, go for it if you want.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

Well, you're acknowledging that Pulaski was used to be the McCoy clone to the one character placed in the Spock role: Data, which was my point about Data's role on TNG.

Oh, I’m in total agreement about Pulaski. I’ll even concede that the dynamic they were trying to recreate was the McCoy/Spock dynamic.

My point stands though, that the reason it didn’t work is due to that shining naïveté which Data possesses, which is not present in Spock at all.

Spock regards emotions as a point of shame. Data regards them as an unfathomable mystery to attempt to unravel.

They just aren’t the same. Certainly not clones. The fact you can make a long list of emotional moments from Spock whilst Data lacks any kind of emotional moment in the entirety of TNG kind of underlines that point.

 

[Macintosh]

I’d rather watch any season of any spin-off, other than Picard, than season three of TOS.

Even PIC S3!?

 

[Macintosh]

Season 3 of TOS is a smoother, more entertaining rewatch than TNG Season 3, VOY Season 3, DSC Season 3 or PIC Season 3. The third year of TNG is either epic and deservedly memorable or largely meh or even forgettable.

TOS' final year has a few abysmal duds but it's generally a well-made season of network television and very memorable and burns its way into your DNA.

I've only seen the season 3 of TOS that starts with "Spock's Brain" and ends with "Turnabout Intruder". Which one are you talking about?

 

[cooleddie74]

PIC Season 2?!?

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[cooleddie74]

I've only seen the season 3 of TOS that starts with "Spock's Brain" and ends with "Turnabout Intruder". Which one are you talking about?

I said what I said.

There's some utter trash in there. "And the Children Shall Lead" is the single worst episode of Trek filmed between 1964 and 1987 and is still awful. "The Mark of Gideon" is - some eerie and creepy visual and sound effects aside - a waste of almost an hour. "Turnabout Intruder" is the worst final episode of any Trek show that doesn't have a holodeck program in it. But there's also some amazing content in Season 3.

 

[Macintosh]

But there's also some amazing content in Season 3.

Well, there's "The Enterprise Incident" of course. And "Is There in Truth no Beauty?". And "The Tholian Web". And... err... no... no... I think we're done.

 

[cooleddie74]

I'll defend "Requiem for Methuselah" and "All Our Yesterdays" at anytime and anywhere. For a show on the way out and having seen its budget cut to extreme levels it made a lot out of limited soundstage dressings and having almost no scenes shot on the Enterprise.

 

[Macintosh]

I'll defend "Requiem for Methuselah" and "All Our Yesterdays" at anytime and anywhere. For a show on the way out and having seen its budget cut to extreme levels it made a lot out of limited soundstage dressings and having almost no scenes shot on the Enterprise.

OK, I'll allow "Requiem for Methuselah".

 

[1001001]

Even PIC S3!?

Yes, I think Picard is the worst series of all. Which is a real bummer, because I love TNG.

I think Season 3, like Season 1, started out incredibly well, only to shit the bed by the end.

Season 2 was a total loss from the beginning.

 

[Farscape One]

Also add "THE EMPATH" as a good episode.

You'd be hard pressed to find an episode that better illustrates the bond between those three.

 

[cooleddie74]

With a rock bottom episode budget no less.

 

[Macintosh]

I think Season 3, like Season 1, started out incredibly well, only to shit the bed by the end.

While I will freely admit that there are elements of the end of season three I didn't really like (which we will identify only by the letters "F" and "G"), there are other elements I REALLY liked (which we will identify only by the letters "D" and "Q") that mean I'm prepared to forgive a lot of shortcomings. It certainly wasn't perfect, but what it got right it got VERY right.

And also the soundtrack is astonishingly good.

 

[fireproof78]

Several of my favorites are in season 3.

Enterprise Incident
Is there no Truth in Beauty?
Day of the Dove
For the World is Hollow and I have Touched the Sky.
Way to Eden.

Savage Curtain.

Among others.

Season 3 gets a short shrift.

 

[Paul755]

Several of my favorites are in season 3.

Enterprise Incident
Is there no Truth in Beauty?
Day of the Dove
For the World is Hollow and I have Touched the Sky.
Way to Eden.

Savage Curtain.

Among others.

Season 3 gets a short shrift.

The Tholian Web is a great episode and it’s S3 also.