No need to. They have essentially buried all of Discovery behind the super super secret "red directive". So as far as the regular Trek universe is concerned, all the events in Discovery never happened.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 5x10 - "Life, Itself"
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No need to. They have essentially buried all of Discovery behind the super super secret "red directive". So as far as the regular Trek universe is concerned, all the events in Discovery never happened.
Yeah, it was sort of like most of the first 2 seasons sucked, and people didn't like it. And when the episodes improved in quality in season 3, people liked it and accepted it.Oh no...
Apprehension to change it? So, The Next Generation and all the gruff it took from fans? Fans memories appear a bit short in the broad acceptance of changes nowadays but rejecting newer changes.
Funny how that works. The quality of a show is directly proportional to how well people like it.
Exactly, and maybe Discovery won't be liked for the quality to which I say "Good." People need to let go of shit they don't actually like and stop treating it special because "STAR TREK." It doesn't get a pass from me because of that title. I go in to it expecting to like characters. Guess what? I like Discovery's characters. Is it a perfect show? Do I care anymore...? Kind of? I am more baffled by the people who are actually willing to constantly drag themselves through the mud in the name of Star Trek.
Discovery also was in an unwinnable position due to the BTS drama. I suppose grace only gets extended to shows we like though.
Everyone forgot that the Progenitors episode was a hamfisted explanation for why all Trek aliens basically just look like humans with makeup (and back then they at least tried to make them look alien, does anyone remember that Adira is a Trill or that Book isn't a human?)
Now with the revelation that the Progenitors didn't even create the tech, and that it seemingly can create all life, even non-humanoid life, that bit about the progenitors creating life to look like themselves has gone out the window and forgotten, even though that was the whole reason the progenitor episode was created in the first place!
Now with the revelation that the Progenitors didn't even create the tech, and that it seemingly can create all life, even non-humanoid life, that bit about the progenitors creating life to look like themselves has gone out the window and forgotten, even though that was the whole reason the progenitor episode was created in the first place!
Unless the Progenitors had more than one faction that wanted to do different things with the tech.
Maybe they are not monolithic.
*squints in TOS*
Actually, Adira is a human hosting a Trill symbiont.
I hope in the Academy writers' room there is a big ass poster which reads: "memberberry-free zone".
There will not be.
See, what has made them money? That's the big question that people seem to forget when it comes to this. Star Trek Picard had a whole thread on "Where's (fill in the blank)?" Discovery started off based upon an event referenced in TOS. The memberberries prove to draw in the crowds, be it the Enterprise, Spock, Pike, Talosians, Rigel VII, the Defiant, and on and on.
What is being demonstrated by people watching it and driving up the views is that memberberries, for good or ill, drive up the viewership. People engage more, even if frustrated by, the references. When a new series is on the table there is the inevitbale question of what references will pop up.
So, at this point I have to ask why do we expect less memberberries when viewership goes up with them and people complain about the lack of familiar elements?
Deleted scene from Discovery finale --
Burnham: President Archer?? What are you doing inside the Progenitor portal? How long have you been here?
Archer: Not long enough apparently. The ****ing thing still won't let me resurrect Trip!
Moll: If it can help L'ak, I'll help you mister president sir.
Kovich: Captain Burnham, if you can hear this audio transmission, you might find former Federation President Jonathan Archer, also known as Future Guy, in the progenitor portal. I am ordering you to put him out of his misery.
Archer: Daniels is that you? I ought to wring your scrawny neck you traitorous son of a--
(Burnham vaporizes Archer)
I feel pretty much the same way. The Progenitors’ tech was predictable, very CGI. They didn’t really explain what it did before Burnham decided to get rid of it, which was also pretty predictable. The only way they could have surprised me would have been deciding to use the tech for the greater good, showing what it was for, and actually resurrecting La’ak.
I don’t have any really strong emotional investment in any of these characters or the 32nd century, which was the real weak element for me, and I don’t particularly want to see a 32nd century Starfleet Academy.
The fact that Academy exists means the events and the characters will be canon though.
Because they don't care.
Alternate timelines and Parallels.
Also, people will change whatever they want in the name of a good story. That's how fiction works. Canon status doesn't matter.
Holy fuck the camera work was bad in this episode.
But what was probably worse was how they tried to treat everything going on as the most important thing in the universe. Except they failed to actually establish that anything going on actually was. So the entire thing came out as a hollow attempt to force emotions that just didn't exist.
Also... The super progenitor technology was just Iconian portals and a giant Replicator? What? Come on, that's even less impressive then Genesis.
But what was probably worse was how they tried to treat everything going on as the most important thing in the universe. Except they failed to actually establish that anything going on actually was. So the entire thing came out as a hollow attempt to force emotions that just didn't exist.
Also... The super progenitor technology was just Iconian portals and a giant Replicator? What? Come on, that's even less impressive then Genesis.
The Rakata and the Star Forge called and want their storyline back, but at least were relieved Disco's writers had the restraint not to make Rayner into Future Guy with amnesia.
In the end, aren't we all Future Guy?
For someone who was raised in the Vulcan way, Burnham sure gets overly emotional about everything.
Also, wasn't Craft's people at war with the Federation for a decade as of Calypso? Yet the Fed secretly wanted him to meet Zora? Was the Fed secretly under orders not to harm Craft the whole time? Why didn't they just grab him and take him to Zora instead? Or is it just more timey wimey confusion? This didn't explain Calypso at all and instead only raised more questions.
Also, wasn't Craft's people at war with the Federation for a decade as of Calypso? Yet the Fed secretly wanted him to meet Zora? Was the Fed secretly under orders not to harm Craft the whole time? Why didn't they just grab him and take him to Zora instead? Or is it just more timey wimey confusion? This didn't explain Calypso at all and instead only raised more questions.
If they decide not to cast Mary Wiseman, she'll just take a leave of absence, or be off camera teaching different cadets.
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