Neither am I. Just more indifferent to most of it.
When did Discovery JUMP the Shark?
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Neither am I. Just more indifferent to most of it.
Specifically?
You made an assertion; demonstration of proofs is appropriate.
Not exactly a conversation starter.
You know what... leave it. This topic is not worth it. I don't come here to be hectored.
Enjoy your day, gentle folks.
Enjoy your day, gentle folks.
Yup. Still going strong, even though I haven’t watched since season twelve. The bastards.
Fair enough, this IS a troll thread. Abandon all who enter here!You know what... leave it. This topic is not worth it. I don't come here to be hectored.
Enjoy your day, gentle folks.
It really isn’t. It is just a thread you don’t particularly like. A sizable difference.
Serious Mode now because it's not super late at night anymore, like when I made my first post in this thread. Had a great Easter yesterday, by the way. Anyway...
"Jump the Shark" means the series took an irreversible turn for the worse. I think the first and fourth seasons are better than the second and third, and I still like the second and third seasons a lot. So, no, I don't think the series jumped the shark. I think Discovery took much less of a hit during its middle seasons than Picard took during its middle season. I like PIC Season 2 as well, but it's a bad sign when even I won't do much to leap to its defense.
Some people might think Discovery jumped the shark when it jumped to the 32nd Century but I disagree. DSC was an odd show to be a prequel. It didn't need to take place in the TOS Era, it never felt like it wanted to take place there, and I don't see it as a TNG Era show, so The Future is the perfect setting.
Some people think it jumped the shark when it became "too emo", but I also disagree with that. DSC has been like that since the beginning. It didn't become that way, it was that way. It's one of those things where you either love it or hate it. To quote Jammer, "it's a feature, not a bug". As a reviewer, he's about as "in the middle" about Discovery as you can get.
And I'm looking forward to the fifth season. If the show had jumped the shark, I would've stopped watching it and wouldn't have been looking forward to it. I've stopped watching Star Trek series during first-run before. I stopped watching VOY at the beginning of the sixth season, I stopped watching ENT after six episodes (!), and I stopped watching LD. So, just because a series is called "Star Trek" doesn't mean I won't walk away from it. But I'm still here for Discovery.
Someone up thread mentioned The Simpsons. I haven't seen an episode since probably somewhere around the mid-'90s, when I was in high school. It's been a long time.
"Jump the Shark" means the series took an irreversible turn for the worse. I think the first and fourth seasons are better than the second and third, and I still like the second and third seasons a lot. So, no, I don't think the series jumped the shark. I think Discovery took much less of a hit during its middle seasons than Picard took during its middle season. I like PIC Season 2 as well, but it's a bad sign when even I won't do much to leap to its defense.
Some people might think Discovery jumped the shark when it jumped to the 32nd Century but I disagree. DSC was an odd show to be a prequel. It didn't need to take place in the TOS Era, it never felt like it wanted to take place there, and I don't see it as a TNG Era show, so The Future is the perfect setting.
Some people think it jumped the shark when it became "too emo", but I also disagree with that. DSC has been like that since the beginning. It didn't become that way, it was that way. It's one of those things where you either love it or hate it. To quote Jammer, "it's a feature, not a bug". As a reviewer, he's about as "in the middle" about Discovery as you can get.
And I'm looking forward to the fifth season. If the show had jumped the shark, I would've stopped watching it and wouldn't have been looking forward to it. I've stopped watching Star Trek series during first-run before. I stopped watching VOY at the beginning of the sixth season, I stopped watching ENT after six episodes (!), and I stopped watching LD. So, just because a series is called "Star Trek" doesn't mean I won't walk away from it. But I'm still here for Discovery.
Someone up thread mentioned The Simpsons. I haven't seen an episode since probably somewhere around the mid-'90s, when I was in high school. It's been a long time.
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How dare you have an opinion! Any opinion.
Discovery just got caught by what ends up tripping up a lot of shows: diminishing returns. The revenue eroded while the cost of doing business went up. It doesn’t make it a good or bad show, just a victim of economics.
Ah on the contrary, a Terry fanatic enters a forum of a show he doesn't like and exclaims it sucks (what it boils down to). Proceeds to give spurious rationale then waits for us to correct his stupidity.
That's a troll.
So your track record day is not very good.
Opinions weren't the issue, supporting it was.
At this point I have no interest in the original troll post. Maybe it was worth a try, but we probably tried too hard to bring some measure of sanity to it.
They were his opinions. I really didn’t see anything to get worked up about, honestly.
I overslept, was woken up by a phone call, felt groggy, had to engage my brain before I go do what I have to do next, and this was a good way to get myself to wake up.
I'm not just "not a morning person". I'm super "not a morning person". Unless it's 2:00 in the morning. Then I'm all about that.
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Hmm
Indeed, yes. There is a place for facts, but a subjective discussion around how a person perceives a show is not the place for it. It's a place for discussion and back and forth without accusations of ignorance/stupidity or trolling.
Calling other posters trolls is against the rules, if you think someone is breaking the rules, please click Notify Moderator, not bait them about it for the rest of the thread.
This is true. Alot of good shows get cancelled... and alot of bad shows stay on forever. Commercial success/viability isn't always an indicator of "good or bad", which is really entirely subjective. There are alot of works that are commercially an outstanding success that I think are terrible. There are alot of works that are considered an absolutely failure that I think are awesome.
I don't think it ever jumped the shark.
Discovery is considered a success by Roddenberry Entertainment
https://screenrant.com/star-trek-discovery-huge-success-roddenberry-trevor-roth/
Discovery is considered a success by Roddenberry Entertainment
https://screenrant.com/star-trek-discovery-huge-success-roddenberry-trevor-roth/
I would give Season 4 a try.
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I don't doubt that.
*BUT*
Also, it's somewhat biased information. Even if Roddenberry Entertainment thought Discovery was a huge pile of garbage, it would be absolutely insane for them to actually say that.
I've worked in sales for a long time. I've sold some absolutely garbage products. However, to my accounts... I would never admit that. Everything we sold was great. You know what's a great way to get people to not buy your product? Saying it's bad...
Can you even imagine, "Hey, Discovery Season 5 is coming out this week. But... holy crap, don't watch it. It's BAD! Like, really bad. Seriously, don't watch the show that makes money for us."
