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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread

Found this on Twitter:

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Um, okay, I feel weird to post this now... but...

Update on my VOY Rewatch. I'm up to "Aice", which is an episode I haven't seen since 2008 (when I finally finished off VOY). This was a pretty good episode. Much better than I expected.

I've been cycling through VOY just like I did with TNG, and later on I'll be cycling through DS9. This will either be preparation for Legacy -- or -- finishing what I started five years ago with TNG, going back through '90s Trek.
 
I have no idea where else to put this, because I can't remember where I saw it, so I'll put it here. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the Klingons if they appear in Legacy if it's made. Hear me out.

What's being forgotten about is that Ezri Dax said, "I think the Klingon Empire is dying and it deserves to die." If the Klingon Empire, as we know it, has fallen on hard times and changed into something else, it's possible the Klingons are in a completely different place now. They might not even be the same as they were before at all. Outside of Worf, their total lack of appearance or mention in Picard is something worth noting. Also, their total lack of mention in Discovery since they jumped to The Future.
 
Fine. Whatever.

It’s not being ‘gang-raped by everyone in a village’ which was my original point and that stands.

Sure. But Robert Meyer Burnett did say that Kirsten Beyer should be sexually assaulted by saying she should be forced to do the Game of Thrones walk of shame.
 
A wee bit of humor I just wrote... :) (Note: the references to Kurtzman below are for humor only; I have no idea what kind of a person he is, and I have no personal axe to grind.)


Picard S3 Pitch Meeting

Producer Guy: "So, you have a final season of Picard for me?"

Screenwriter Guy: "Yes, sir, I do! So, we open on a small ship of Beverly Crusher's, who's listening to Picard's log from 'The Best of Both Worlds', in a clever bit of foreshadowing."

Producer Guy: "Why is it clever? Is there a reason Beverly would be listening to this log?"

Screenwriter Guy: "Kinda? She's presumably checking her memory about something called 'Hellbird,' which Riker explains was the extremely metal name they gave to a Borg computer virus that infected the D's navigation systems. But yeah, it's mostly just plain foreshadowing."

Producer Guy: "A Borg computer virus? That must have been a pain to fix."

Screenwriter Guy: "Actually, it was super easy, barely an inconvenience! The virus just added the number 3 after every other integer, so all they had to do was reverse that."

Producer Guy: "That sounds like something Data could do in a matter of seconds. So why'd they give it such a dramatic name?"

Screenwriter Guy: "I dunno, maybe Data was going through a Led Zepplin phase, or something."

Producer Guy: "A very dramatic android!"

Screenwriter Guy: "Yeah yeah yeah! Anyway, Beverly and her late-teenage son are wandering, do-gooding medical mavericks, but they're being chased by masked baddies, and - "

Producer Guy: "Wait, Beverly has another son?"

Screenwriter Guy: "Yeah, turns out she and Picard conceived a son sometime after Nemesis, and she was so afraid that his enemies would target him, she completely ghosted him, and all their Enterprise friends."

Producer Guy: "Wait, family and child murder is something Starfleet heroes have to worry about? Isn't that wildly out of tone for Star Trek?"

Screenwriter Guy: "Yeah, just like frequent and gratuitous swearing, apparently people have been trying to kill Picard all the f***ing time just offscreen all along. As in, once every few months, at least."

Producer Guy: "So Beverly just completely dropped off the map, and Picard never demanded any kind of explanation, or sought confirmation she was still alive, despite the fact that he was actively being targeted for assassination, and they were now doing sex to each other?"

Screenwriter Guy: "That's what we're going with, yes. Anyway, the Borg steal Picard's dead human body from a top-secret facility, because, as mentioned in 'The Best of Both Worlds,' they did some genetic modification to him, and now they need that information for a brand-new plot to assimilate humanity!"

Producer Guy: "They don't have that information on file from when he was Locutus? And even if they don't, they've assimilated countless humans over centuries; what makes Picard's genetics so special?"

Screenwriter Guy: "Um... Midichlorians, I guess? Remember, Star Trek is pretty much knockoff Star Wars now, right down to Jack Crusher Jr. being a secret Palpatine, just like Rey, but with the Borg Queen's lineage."

Producer Guy: "Okay, fine, let's just skip to the end. What's the big climax?"

Screenwriter Guy: "Oh, it's super dramatic! Picard faces off with the galaxy's ultimate villain, the Borg Queen! The OG one, not the one from last season!"

Producer Guy: "You mean the one that got killed during 'The Best of Both Worlds' via a retcon, killed again in First Contact, and spanked by the Voyager crew several times, including a time when Janeway got herself assimilated on purpose? The one who has never once killed a main cast member, unlike such one-offs as Armus and Shinzon?"

Screenwriter Guy: "That's her! And she's really dangerous this time, because she can't even walk now!"

Producer Guy: "Um, okay... So, does she kill anyone important this time?"

Screenwriter Guy: "Just Shelby, probably, but we even leave ourselves wiggle room there. Anyway, the Enterprise-D flies through her cube, and blows it up from the inside!"

Producer Guy: "A Borg Cube has enough empty space for a Gala-"

Screenwriter Guy: "Hey, Millennium Falcon, shut up! Don't make me call Praetor Kurtzman on you!"

Producer Guy: "No, please, God, forget I said anything! So, I assume the Queen loses, but does Picard do anything interesting?"

Screenwriter Guy: "Well, he offers himself to the Queen, in order to take Jack's place. It's very dramatic!"

Producer Guy: "Didn't he already do that with Data in First Contact?"

Screenwriter Guy: "Praetor Kurtz - "

Producer Guy: "Sorry! I'm just kind of worried this sounds like we're just doing First Contact and Return of the Jedi again, with a dash of Rise of Skywalker, too, without adding anything new at all."

Screenwriter Guy: "Yeah, but the old heroes will all do stuff together, and they'll all survive, so the fans will be happy this time! We definitely won't have a pissy Mark Hamill situation on our hands we'll have to clean up with a deepfake later."

Producer Guy: "Wow wow wow wow wow... wow. So, does the former Borg and main cast member Seven do anything interesting in all this?"

Screenwriter Guy: "Not really, no! She's just kinda there."

Producer Guy: "Okay. And what about Picard's Romulan girlfriend?"

Screenwriter Guy: "Poker Game Finale! That's how the other show ended! Please clap!"
 
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There's no "super easy, barely an inconvenience" anywhere in that.

"Computer, update the Pitch Meeting, and resume program."

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Screenwriter Guy: "So, we open on a small ship of Beverly Crusher's, who's listening to Picard's log from 'The Best of Both Worlds', in a clever bit of foreshadowing."

Producer Guy: "Why is it clever? Is there a reason Beverly would be listening to this log?"

Screenwriter Guy: "Kinda? She's presumably checking her memory about something called 'Hellbird,' which Riker explains was the extremely metal name they gave to a Borg computer virus that infected the D's navigation systems. But yeah, it's mostly just plain foreshadowing."

Producer Guy: "A Borg computer virus? That must have been a pain to fix."

Screenwriter Guy: "Actually, it was super easy, barely an inconvenience! The virus just added the number 3 after every other integer, so all they had to do was reverse that."

Producer Guy: "That sounds like something Data could do in a matter of seconds. So why'd they give it such a dramatic name?"

Screenwriter Guy: "I dunno, maybe Data was going through a Led Zepplin phase, or something."

Producer Guy: "A very dramatic android!"

Screenwriter Guy: "Yeah yeah yeah! Anyway, Beverly and her late-teenage son are wandering, do-gooding medical mavericks, but they're being chased by masked baddies, and..."

:)

and something that is "tight".
Screenwriter Guy: "It turns out that the Daystrom Station's security AI is a previously unknown mix of Data, Lore, B4, and Alton Soong!"

Producer Guy: "Oh, putting the cybernetic equivalent of a person with multiple personalities, one of whom is developmentally disabled, another of whom is known to be psychotic, and another of whom almost got the universe wiped out by tentacle robots from another dimension, in charge of a facility full of extremely hazardous weapons and technology is tight!"
 
He did say in an interview that he had the basic idea for the story for years.
He just adapted it to what has happened in Trek since then.
 
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