Another captain? TWOK

[balls]

I’m sure this has probably been asked a million times before. During Spock’s memorial, there’s a guy in uniform with the white accents. Is this a captain?

 

[NCC-73515]

This one? Never noticed him. He's a Lt. JG

 

[balls]

Great catch. Thanks for clarifying. I thought the white accents were only worn by captains and above. Although Scotty wore tan even after the promotion to captain. However, in TUC, he wore the white turtleneck while in his vest, yet changed in tan when wearing his maroon uniform when beaming to Khitomer then back to the vest/white after coming back to the Enterprise.

 

[David cgc]

IIRC, Mr. Scott's Guide had it that department heads could choose to wear command-white trim or their department color at their discretion. I'm not sure if that was sourced from Robert Fletcher's notes or was Lora Johnson's own supposition.

 

[balls]

This one? Never noticed him. He's a Lt. JG

I noticed that Rand is wearing white in spacedock in TSFS. She’s clearly wearing a commander’s pin.

 

[Blip]

Not to mention Saavik was a Lt. and in white slashes & undershirt throughout TSFS and TVH.

 

[Tomalak]

Ensign Picard in Tapestry and Lt Castillo in Yesterday's Enterprise also wore white.

IIRC Fletcher had white as the command track, which included pilots/helmsmen.

 

[Blip]

Ensign Picard in Tapestry and Lt Castillo in Yesterday's Enterprise also wore white.

IIRC Fletcher had white as the command track, which included pilots/helmsmen.

That might have been Fletcher's plan for TMP, but by the time of TWOK-TFF helmspersons were -costume errors notwithstanding- wearing the same gold as Engineering (see Sulu, plus the collected Grissom, Saratoga, Excelsior helm officers). As such, they generally wouldn't be in white unless they wanted to advertise that they were the dept. head.

 

[BillJ]

IIRC, Mr. Scott's Guide had it that department heads could choose to wear command-white trim or their department color at their discretion. I'm not sure if that was sourced from Robert Fletcher's notes or was Lora Johnson's own supposition.

Where I learned the dot and dashes on the uniform sleeve were for time served in Starfleet. With a dot equaling one year, a dash equaling five years.

 

[David cgc]

Where I learned the dot and dashes on the uniform sleeve were for time served in Starfleet. With a dot equaling one year, a dash equaling five years.

Turns out, that wasn’t quite accurate. Normal dots (or “pips”) were five years of service, dots with a Starfleet delta were ten years of service, and dashes (or “squeaks”) were nonspecific commendations.

I think Johnson’s version in MSG makes more sense. Having the time in service be in five-year increments, and commendations be indicated generically, seems wacky. Especially since we saw specific “fruit salad”-style commendations worn on the chest both on the TOS dress uniforms, and in TUC on the Admiralty’s uniforms.

 

[tharpdevenport]

Great catch. Thanks for clarifying. I thought the white accents were only worn by captains and above. Although Scotty wore tan even after the promotion to captain. However, in TUC, he wore the white turtleneck while in his vest, yet changed in tan when wearing his maroon uniform when beaming to Khitomer then back to the vest/white after coming back to the Enterprise.

Got to remain fashionable. Always pack plenty of uniform color variants, even when in enemy territory.

 

[fireproof78]

Got to remain fashionable. Always pack plenty of uniform color variants, even when in enemy territory.

Uniform for every occasion is the best way.