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Star Trek-RM: Is There In Truth No Beauty?… Grading/Discussion
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Kollos was inside his casing, so it didn't matter whether anyone else in the room was wearing the visor. It's only when Kollos gets 'loose' (i.e. the case is opened) that there's a problem.
Even so, the visor only works on Vulcans anyway. Even if Kirk had one on, and looked at Kollos, he'd have still gone batshit.
It dose look like it has TOS style Starfleet nacelles...so it's probably some sort of small Starfleet transport vessel.
Is it me, or does this scene appear to be incorrectly composited? The new ship shows three levels of windows. Assuming these represent standard deck heights, then the new ship appears to be too small compared to the Enterprise. The thickness of the Enterprise's saucer edge is two decks thick, but the edge is huge compared to the new ship.
I wonder if the new ship was designed to be much larger than shown. In fact, if you assume the nacelles to be the same size on both ships, the window/deck height on the new ship might actually appear to be correct.
Thoughts?
then why does spock wear the visor to beam them in? why do they clear the corridors to walk the case through the hall? It doesnt add up, I'm guessing the reason Shatner is there in the end scene is because of the "favored nations" clause...the Shat probably demanded equal time.
Maybe one deck has three rows of windows ...
We can just assume that Kirk looked away while the beaming was going on because we don't actually see him during the actual transport. Also, it makes sense that they would clear the hallways because if you drop the box and it pops open you don't want anybody getting exposed.
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Could be Starfleet or civilian Federation. But then again, maybe the Medusans bought a standard design that met their needs and it's still technically their ship.
Could be Starfleet or civilian Federation. But then again, maybe the Medusans bought a standard design that met their needs and it's still technically their ship.
Either it's sheer force of habit, or they were planning just in case Kollos' case accidentally opened (which is extremely unlikely, I'm guessing the case is built not to do that).
Hey, man, Kirk could drive Kollos crazy just lookin' at him!
It dose look like it has TOS style Starfleet nacelles...so it's probably some sort of small Starfleet transport vessel.
Is it me, or does this scene appear to be incorrectly composited? The new ship shows three levels of windows. Assuming these represent standard deck heights, then the new ship appears to be too small compared to the Enterprise. The thickness of the Enterprise's saucer edge is two decks thick, but the edge is huge compared to the new ship.
I wonder if the new ship was designed to be much larger than shown. In fact, if you assume the nacelles to be the same size on both ships, the window/deck height on the new ship might actually appear to be correct.
Thoughts?
It could be a Medusan hull configuration with Earth/Starfleet nacelles. Maybe the tiny windows are for noncorporeal Medusans. I see this ship as much smaller than Enterprise, but I could be wrong.
BTW: I started a thread about this ship in the Trek Art forum.
To get the scaling right, the Medusan ship would have to be level with the Enterprise saucer and to the port, not level with the Enterprise dish and directly ahead.
How is this scene shot? Is there motion there, to dispel the notion that the Medusan ship is actually level with the saucer?
Also, do I see red (Starfleet) pennants on those nacelles?
The Medusans were at least as secretive as Jones. The odds are, Kirk didn't know Kollos would be traveling within a protective container that eliminated all danger of visual exposure. Hence the clearing of corridors and a number of other needless precautions at the beginning of the episode - and a relaxing of those precautions at the end.
Kirk need not have looked away or anything. Probably there was only 0.001% risk of anything happening even if he looked straight at Kollos' box throughout the transport process - but he could simply have closed his eyes at the moment of highest risk, too. (Spock couldn't, as he had to mind the controls, so he'd wear the goggles.)
Timo Saloniemi
How is this scene shot? Is there motion there, to dispel the notion that the Medusan ship is actually level with the saucer?
Also, do I see red (Starfleet) pennants on those nacelles?
The Medusans were at least as secretive as Jones. The odds are, Kirk didn't know Kollos would be traveling within a protective container that eliminated all danger of visual exposure. Hence the clearing of corridors and a number of other needless precautions at the beginning of the episode - and a relaxing of those precautions at the end.
Kirk need not have looked away or anything. Probably there was only 0.001% risk of anything happening even if he looked straight at Kollos' box throughout the transport process - but he could simply have closed his eyes at the moment of highest risk, too. (Spock couldn't, as he had to mind the controls, so he'd wear the goggles.)
Timo Saloniemi
For an alien that can fit in a shoe-box I think the deck heights could be a bit less than the Enterprise. 3 feet would be plenty.
Assuming of course that they'd even break the ship into decks the way we bipeds would.
Not bad. Me likey!
Frankly, the way Mudd described the ship(what he did say)in the episode made it sound kind of small and limited. This new CGI model sort of fits with the way I always envisioned the vessel.