It's not sinister to begin with.
Another movie that will never get made is announced!
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If the movie is set shortly after First Contact, then perhaps James Cromwell will also come back to reprise his role? Alfre Woodard may also be available.
Huh? Cromwell and Woodard would be 30 years older than how they looked in First Contact.
So the count is now at
- A fourth Kelvin timeline film, a decade too late
- A Section 31 film
- Some Picard film
- This "origin story" film (whatever that means)
The Section 31 film might actually get made, but I can't say I think any of these are a good idea.
- A fourth Kelvin timeline film, a decade too late
- A Section 31 film
- Some Picard film
- This "origin story" film (whatever that means)
The Section 31 film might actually get made, but I can't say I think any of these are a good idea.
4th Kelvin film: not gonna happen.
Section 31: maybe... probably not.
Some Picard film: rumor the result of a drunken after party. Not gonna happen.
Origin story film: ... origin of what? Not gonna happen.
The supernova happened at an accelerated rate, within a short period of 4/5 years. Natural supernovas do not unexpectedly take place at such a rapid pace. Something suddenly caused fusion within the Romulan star to stop, something that *must* have been triggered deep in its core, causing the star to contract and implode which caused the devastating shockwave which destroyed Romulus and Remus, resulting in the collapse of the Romulan Empire as we know it and the beyond tragic loss of countless lives on a biblical scale. Spock tried to stop this galactic event using red matter, but as we know, he sadly failed… resulting in Neros revenge mission via a temporal intervention from the 2380’s to 2233 onboard the Borg augmented Romulan mining ship Narada. I assume that the Narada was enhanced by the Romulans using material salvaged from the Artefact or another similarly disabled Borg cube. Anyway, this resulting temporal incursion led to the destruction of the planet Vulcan, which Spock sadly had to watch from his cave... Spock wanted his legacy to be reunification between Romulus and Vulcan - instead in his final days he got to watch the destruction of both planets. This is a tragic end for our beloved character and quite ironic really.
So, Romulus, Remus and Vulcan… all destroyed. This is devastation on an apocalyptic scale and not true to Star Treks vision of an optimistic future full of hope, cooperation and discovery. These galactic events have almost turned the Star Trek universe that we know and love from the 24th century in to a dystopia, as depicted in Picard seasons 1 and 2.
I am sure that the Beta Quadrant of the early 25th century is now in chaos, with many different species competing to become the dominant power in the Quadrant due to the lack of political and military order and stability which had been long held for centuries by the Romulan Empire. The Klingons more than likely did not just sit back and watch their enemies of old, I am sure that they would have encroached in to Romulan territories seizing resources and strategic locations in ‘glorious’ battle, attempting to conquer their former adversaries whilst they were at their most vulnerable. Other species would most definitely have taken advantage of the new dynamics and power vacuum within the Beta Quadrant left by the collapse of the Romulan Empire. The Hirogen, for example, probably found new hunting grounds with many worthy prey.
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- I only see ST4 happening as a multi-season tv series at this point. The cast is too expensive to make a movie with, and Paramount doesn’t seem to want a film to have a limited focus on a couple of characters.
- Its happening. Period. Expect it to premiere by the end of 2024.
- It will probably happen. The Ent-D bridge is still around. Matalas never got to do everything he wanted to do with S3 either, in terms of cameos. It can function as a backdoor pilot for Legacy. And is frankly the last chance for some sort of TNG-DS9-VOY crossover film, even if its going to focus on SPS’s experimentations.
- IDK. They can’t get ST4 going and we are supposed to believe they’ll get a prequel movie off the ground?
The Federation was afraid of synths, Borg and Changelings. And let down the Romulans after it looked like they are turning the page on centuries of hostility, all to prevent a Fedxit. That does not mean the prime universe isn’t a utopia. They just aren’t a utopia as seen in TNG.
Never forget that the era of TOS is utopian too, and they were at war with the Klingons for decades.
As for the Kelvin universe, I never got the sense that they were on the road to a dystopic future because Vulcan was destroyed.
Depends if the Typhon Pact is a thing or not. If they become canon, then I can’t see the Tholians, Tzenkethi, Gorn, Orions, and Kinshaya just letting the territory of the sixth Typhon Pact member, the Romulans to just fall into the hands of the Klingons or the Federation .
And that’s not even consider the various Romulan factions, or the various worlds that were rivals to the Romulans that the Federation are complete unaware of that no longer have the Romulan Empire as a buffer state.
TOS never struck me as utopian. That was added after the fact by Gene. It was precisely controlled, sterile at times, with artificial environments. It had challenges, and weaknesses.
If it was utopian, it probably was only utopian for those on Earth in the 60s fearing WW3. Oh, wait, in order to get to TOS you have to have WW3.
I figured out why they're promoting it as a prequel to the Kelvin Films.
They're going up to the Joe Rogan, Barstool Sports Crowd. "Nah, bro! This isn't a prequel to nerd Star Trek. This is a prequel to cool Star Trek! Remember the JJ Abrams films?" Then one of those people responds, "Star Trek? Isn't that a rip-off of Star Wars?"
They're going up to the Joe Rogan, Barstool Sports Crowd. "Nah, bro! This isn't a prequel to nerd Star Trek. This is a prequel to cool Star Trek! Remember the JJ Abrams films?" Then one of those people responds, "Star Trek? Isn't that a rip-off of Star Wars?"
Just wondering out loud whether the Origin script (JJ's) and the thing that Stewart illuded to being involved in could actually be the same thing, and Picard is effectively going to do a Spock, into the past. It would tie into his archaeological leanings and also allow him to do the "great legends disappear" by disappearing from the 25thC rather than dying (again).
I'm wondering if the next movie will be about gremlins sabotaging the NX Enterprise as Archer take sit out of mothballs to win the Romulan war. And the Chef, played by Shatner, is the only one who can see any of them.
Wow, thanks for that.
A thought has just occurred to me! Perhaps somebody destroyed the Hobus star in order to change the direction of the Nexus energy ribbon due to the resulting gravitational shifts? Though this theory is unlikely, as the ribbon only passes through our galaxy every 39 years… so the next time that this anomaly is seen after Generations will be in the year 2410, not anytime in the 2380s.
I wonder what level the shockwave was from the Hobus star? We know that the Armagosas star shockwave was level 12, so probably off the scale… hehe.
BTW, Star Trek: Prodigy is still set in the early 2380’s, so Dal and the gang could still potentially prevent the destruction of Romulus and Remus if a movie does not.
I have a sneaking feeling that Disco season 5 may deal with the Romulan supernova in some way, though that series writers may be trying to cover up the true story if they don’t beat around the bush so to speak…
Anybody seen the starship Relativity around recently?
Cool fan fic, though.
I wonder what level the shockwave was from the Hobus star? We know that the Armagosas star shockwave was level 12, so probably off the scale… hehe.
BTW, Star Trek: Prodigy is still set in the early 2380’s, so Dal and the gang could still potentially prevent the destruction of Romulus and Remus if a movie does not.
I have a sneaking feeling that Disco season 5 may deal with the Romulan supernova in some way, though that series writers may be trying to cover up the true story if they don’t beat around the bush so to speak…
Captain Burnham and the U.S.S. Discovery are sent to retrieve a mysterious 800-year-old Romulan vessel; until the artifact hidden inside is stolen, leading to an epic chase. Meanwhile, Saru is offered the position of a lifetime, and Tilly’s efforts to help pull her into a tangled web of secrecy.
I dislike how all of the moustache twirling enemies have been bunched together in to a pack, this is all very two dimensional and quite discriminatory against those not in the homosapians only club. I also do not believe that the Gorn should be included in the Typhon pact, because they are the playthings of the Metrons. I won’t even ask what the ‘Kinshaya’ are?
Cool fan fic, though.
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This...seems to apply a lot.Cool fan fic, though.
BTW, Star Trek: Prodigy is still set in the early 2380’s, so Dal and the gang could still potentially prevent the destruction of Romulus and Remus if a movie does not.
See above.Anybody seen the starship Relativity around recently?
No it isn't. Kirk even says as much in an episode.
BTW, any species that successfully passes the Metron test, ‘trial by combat’ with the Gorn, would most certainly impress this advanced species. Therefore the Typhon pact members may have relations of sorts with the Metron’s, as all pact members would have passed their test with the Gorn by making an alliance/pact with the reptilian species, rather than fighting them to the death.
What a shame that Kirk or Pike did not pass the Metron test first though!
What a shame that Kirk or Pike did not pass the Metron test first though!
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BTW, any species that successfully passes the Metron test, ‘trial by combat’ with the Gorn, would most certainly impress this advanced species. Therefore the Typhon pact members may have relations of sorts with the Metron’s, as all pact members would have passed their test with the Gorn by making an alliance/pact with the reptilian species, rather than fighting them to the death.
What a shame that Kirk or Pike did not pass the Metron test first though!
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