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Spoilers Ncuti Gatwa's New Sonic Screwdriver (the biggest spoiler is that I actually love this)

Qonundrum

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What say you, on this vignette?

Now don't tell anyone, but I love this.

I love his explanation.

I love the new design. It's a nice shake-up, and its size makes me think it can now do half the crap that was introduced on a whim by Doctors 13 and 14. I know Yoda and Spock have alluded to "bulk vs capability", but they too miss a point. But before I digress into that digression...

And, oh my giddy uncle, he says "technology" and not "tech". :luvlove::luvlove: Take that, rest of 21st century scifi/fantasy genre! :nyah: :luvlove: (I know the new era will be more fantasy-based. That's okay, I don't have an aversion to pure fantasy genre shows...)

I am curious about the emphasis on the powering crystal, a great shade of purple. After recent episodes, I doubt this video snippet will lead into anything, so I'm just going to love this minute-long segment for what it is.

And, yes, I've loathed the prop in recent years. I do love how this little vignette reintroduces it.

If anything, "USB port" is a bit much, maybe "wifi port" but sod the pedantry on my part. I love everything else about this. Besides, electrical impulses can be created from kinetic energy (vibrations from sound) and, done fast enough, you can probably emulate a compatible signal. So there, all us nerds in the audience can have a good night's sleep again.

It's Ncuti's best moment yet :luvlove: and IMHO the segment is really well done. In a new era that is designed with a clean slate, who can't be on board?


P.S. The Xmas scene where he's dancing - I'm headcanoning for now that the scene is after the new companion wanders into the ship and he has his own personal dance floor. It's by the swimming pool. I can roll with that. And for what we do or don't know, maybe he does and there are holographic projections of people there too. Plus, if the new Doctor wore a kilt for any length of time between stories, I'd watch.
 
More like a sonic tricorder. Different, but cool.

Yeah, maybe they could have changed the name, but I'm still won over. (The emphasis on how it's used to unlock a metal door made me smile in a good way, but don't tell anyone that either.) Now if you hear stories about dogs and cats living in harmony, let me know and I'll check my temperature and lipase count...
 
Looks cool.

I wonder if him using it "upside down" as well implies functionality or if he just wasn't used to the prop yet. ;)
 
It looks more like a sonic shoe tree than a sonic screwdriver, but hey, we've had sonic sunglasses. The sonic can be whatever the Doctor wants.

But seriously, it's an interesting design, a fresh approach. It looks like maybe the smaller lobe can rotate 180 degrees and be flush with the larger one in sort of a pocketwatch shape.

I love the Rwandan proverb, which is so very Doctor-like.
 
It looks more like a sonic shoe tree than a sonic screwdriver, but hey, we've had sonic sunglasses. The sonic can be whatever the Doctor wants.

LOL! One heck of a shoe tree. It's a terrific design.

I also noticed how Ncuti paraphrases the 5th Doctor's "scrapes" comment from "Castrovalva" and smiled -- in a good way, "Castrovalva" is a classic, I'd forgotten, and Ncuti's use of it is very subtle. Plus, I was already in cloud nine when Ncuti utters "technology" - one could make a drinking game when previous modern Doctors all hipster slang it up with "tech". Well, drinking game or upchuck game... maybe both rolled into one, it's all good... :eek:

I vaguely remember the sunglasses shtick. What I do remember is positive and mostly because Capaldi acted his socks off. One of the best Doctor actors ever, that's for sure, and one of the few I could buy into while looking like a cool California surfer with them on... it makes cosplay a lot easier as well, that's the one benefit of when the show has the lead using a costume that is an off-the-shelf item. It's not as iconic, but anyone can do it. The next time I go to a convention and if everyone looks the same, I am so going to quote the Doc from "The Mind Robber", but I digress. :guffaw:


So I looked it up:
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Still a lampoon more often than not and, IMHO, the music is overdone and detracts in a number of clips. Capaldi doesn't need such backing to make any scene the better for it. He could read a recipe for skunk souffle and it'd be compelling on its own. Indeed, I cracked up royally at 4:26... 4:44 too and I like wood... oh piffle, there I go digressing again, so...:

The sonic is great, when used sparingly and not as a gimmick or panacea, or used so often that the contrivances needed to make it unusable take one out of the story. Critics complained in the late-70s regarding overuse as well as doing too many things above and beyond the original intent*, to the point incoming producers had a monster destroy it, and I doubt many of them changed their minds if they saw the show some thirty years later, unless they had some major epiphany and wanted the thing waved more and faster than a symphony conductor... which reminds me of 'The War Games' when the Doctor whips it out and Zoe stares in awe as the sound waves may cause the wall, conveniently held together via a magnetic field for no reason**. Since it's magnetism that can control sound frequency and not the other way around that I'm aware of... but each episode was written in a span of two days to meet tight deadlines because so many previous stories fell through due to budget or other issues and I implore you to not look up "The Prisoner of Space", which - from what is available sounds more like a lame parody but maybe that's why it was dropped (not released) - couldn't be reformatted into something less cringeworthy in time, and even had rewrites for Jamie's replacement, had he left the show as he originally devised (but opted to stay until the end of the season, fortunately.). Indeed, "The War Games" is one of the best accidents to have ever been written for the show...

* a unidirectional flow of concentrated and aimed sonic vibrations for a certain set of purposes, which felt authentic for the most part for a while, and the speed of sound is fairly formidable, so I could roll with it... once it started to become flanderized, it took me out of the show but some people hated it outright. Others love it more and more regardless of what else it's able to do. The gamut's inevitable, isn't it?

** Save for headcanon and how the wall was modular, and near a power generator since magnetism can be used to generate power (e.g. smartphone rechargers), so it made more sense to build it with big blocks as opposed to steel or whatever other materials for paneling. If nothing else, it was easier to buy into the device being used as a "blowtorch" via sonic vibrations inducing friction to cause heat, though I wouldn't try that on any surface willy nilly... :guffaw:


But seriously, it's an interesting design, a fresh approach. It looks like maybe the smaller lobe can rotate 180 degrees and be flush with the larger one in sort of a pocketwatch shape.

Great point, re: pocket watch shape (hadn't noticed, actually) and fresh approach (which I did notice but didn't articulate, I just love the introduction - which I wasn't expecting either). Especially the fresh approach; the show in its "controversial" finale did find a way to shed "baggage" in its own way. I'm approaching the new era with a clean slate, but usually shows that ditch the baggage are usually new ones with new names that share some basic concepts but then do their own thing to build their own lore. Like "Firefly" was influenced by "Blake's 7" but is clearly its own universe and scale and scope, and B7 itself came from a handful of other shows melded into one.

I love the Rwandan proverb, which is so very Doctor-like.


I loved it too - definitely a Doctor bit. It reminded me of "the pen is mightier of the sword".

Also, if we want to return to 80s-style thrills, let's see a Doctor who'll start to quote proverbs like Marie-Jeanne Roland's. Never ever do a crossover between DW and B7! :guffaw:
 
it makes cosplay a lot easier as well, that's the one benefit of when the show has the lead using a costume that is an off-the-shelf item. It's not as iconic, but anyone can do it.

RTD in a magazine interview talks about 15 will have a lot of outfits that are just ordinary clothes so that it's easy to cosplay.
 
and B7 itself came from a handful of other shows melded into one.

More like films and literature than shows. According to David McIntee,
Terry Nation pitched it as Robin Hood in Space, Chris Boucher and David Maloney tweaked into the Dirty Dozen in Space.

It was also influenced by classic Westerns, Brave New World, and the film Passage to Marseilles, among other things.


Like "Firefly" was influenced by "Blake's 7"

Apparently it wasn't. Whedon has said that his inspirations included the 1974 Civil War novel The Killer Angels by Michael Shaara (basis of the 1993 film Gettysburg), an unspecified book about Jewish partisan fighters in Poland after WWII, as well as the John Ford Western Stagecoach and his love of Westerns in general. So the similarities come from both shows being independently influenced by the same earlier genres, rather than one being directly inspired by the other.
 
I think, and may be wrong, that Blakes 7 had more influence on Babylon 5 than it did Firefly. That doesn't mean it had huge influence but I think JMS is more of a fan of British sci-fi and fantasy then Whedon. Of course when I was younger and grumpier I thought Whedon was ripping B7 off :lol: of course I also thought Angel was riffing on Forever Knight and let's be honest here, Doll's House is just Joe 90 ;)

I hesitate to say there are no new ideas under the sun, but there ain't many.
 
I think, and may be wrong, that Blakes 7 had more influence on Babylon 5 than it did Firefly. That doesn't mean it had huge influence but I think JMS is more of a fan of British sci-fi and fantasy then Whedon. Of course when I was younger and grumpier I thought Whedon was ripping B7 off :lol: of course I also thought Angel was riffing on Forever Knight and let's be honest here, Doll's House is just Joe 90 ;)

I hesitate to say there are no new ideas under the sun, but there ain't many.

It's never safe to assume that a resemblance between two things is evidence of direct inspiration, let along "ripping off." It's usually more likely that they're both independently drawing on similar earlier precedents, because everything exists within a larger context. In fact, different stories accidentally resemble each other so often that it's hard to avoid, particularly within a common genre working with a common vocabulary of tropes. Statistically speaking, a similarity is more likely to be accidental, or the result of parallel evolution, than intentional.
 
I also thought Angel was riffing on Forever Knight
I remember when the Space channel in Canada began airing Forever Knight in the early 2000s they really leaned into the similarity with Angel in the commercials with the announcer saying something like "he's a crime fighting vampire with a soul. Sound familiar? But he's no Angel..."
 
It's never safe to assume that a resemblance between two things is evidence of direct inspiration, let along "ripping off." It's usually more likely that they're both independently drawing on similar earlier precedents, because everything exists within a larger context. In fact, different stories accidentally resemble each other so often that it's hard to avoid, particularly within a common genre working with a common vocabulary of tropes. Statistically speaking, a similarity is more likely to be accidental, or the result of parallel evolution, than intentional.

Absolutely. I bet if I dug deep enough (or possibly not even that deeply) I'd find a vampire with a soul trope that predates Nick Knight.

I remember when the Space channel in Canada began airing Forever Knight in the early 2000s they really leaned into the similarity with Angel in the commercials with the announcer saying something like "he's a crime fighting vampire with a soul. Sound familiar? But he's no Angel..."

Ha ha, that's great. I really need to try and get a DVD of the series at some point, I'm not even sure how much of it I saw (definitely not the final season because Schanke was in every ep I saw.
 
Absolutely. I bet if I dug deep enough (or possibly not even that deeply) I'd find a vampire with a soul trope that predates Nick Knight.

Well, any modern fictional portrayal of vampires as sympathetic figures or tragic heroes probably owes something to Barnabas Collins of Dark Shadows, as well as Anne Rice's novels.

Although as far as I can tell, Nick Knight wasn't "a vampire with a soul," just a vampire who developed a conscience and repented. I don't recall the whole soul = good vampire, soulless = evil vampire mechanic being a thing outside of the Buffyverse. (And it was always rather vaguely defined there. If a vampire is just a demon soul puppeteering a dead body, why did the show treat vampires as evil versions of the original people? I always thought a "soul" was equivalent to a person's consciousness and identity, but the Buffyverse seemed to treat it more as some ineffable moral essence independent of personality and memory. Which is incongruous given how many humans in the Buffyverse were portrayed as evil or morally ambivalent. Whedon was never very good at consistent worldbuilding.)

In Chinese lore, jiangshi ("hopping" vampires) are sometimes the result of a dead person's soul failing to leave their body, because they died by suicide or otherwise "improperly," or just wanted to stick around and make mischief. So it's sort of like ghosts in Western lore, the soul being unable or unwilling to move on.
 
For all the fuss they made about 14's new sonic, I would have thought they'd have kept it for Ncuti... we hardly saw the thing in the specials apart from the first one (not really used at all in The Giggle, missing for most of Wild Blue Yonder as stuck in the TARDIS lock). Guess it really is all about the revenue from Character Options, eh?
 
It looks more like a sonic shoe tree than a sonic screwdriver, but hey, we've had sonic sunglasses. The sonic can be whatever the Doctor wants.

But seriously, it's an interesting design, a fresh approach. It looks like maybe the smaller lobe can rotate 180 degrees and be flush with the larger one in sort of a pocketwatch shape.

I love the Rwandan proverb, which is so very Doctor-like.
That gives me an idea. What about an actual sonic shoe?
Get Smart Shoe 1a.jpg
 
More like films and literature than shows. According to David McIntee,


It was also influenced by classic Westerns, Brave New World, and the film Passage to Marseilles, among other things..
B7's Western influences are more down to script editor Chris Boucher, who's a big fan, and to a lesser extent Paul Darrow who was also a classic Western fan.
 
For all the fuss they made about 14's new sonic, I would have thought they'd have kept it for Ncuti... we hardly saw the thing in the specials apart from the first one (not really used at all in The Giggle, missing for most of Wild Blue Yonder as stuck in the TARDIS lock). Guess it really is all about the revenue from Character Options, eh?
14s screw driver looked like something you’d find in an adult catalog.

Not sure about this new one.

I preferred the Doctor without one like 7.
 
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