Spoilers Kolvoord Starburst story arc

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Does anyone think SNW should portray the original Kolvoord Starburst disaster - the one that killed all 5 cadets who attempted it in the 2260s?

How old is the maneuver? Was it banned shortly after it was invented? Who or what or where was Kolvoord, its namesake? Who were the cadets who died in the 2260s? Any connection to any character we know? Under what circumstances was the maneuver invented - simply as a cool stunt, or used by its originator to achieve some objective?

So many questions.

 

[fireproof78]

Not really, no.

Not that it isn't a minor interesting bit of lore buy going back to the original feels like Archer lamenting the lack of some sort of directive to guide decisions.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

It's just one story, not a unifying overarching philosophy. But yeah, I get that it might be too "small universe".

The name sounds vaguely Dutch, I think?

 

[JRob94]

I think if they ever brought back Short Treks, this would be a cool idea. A full 45 minute episode, I’m not so sure Would I watch a SNW episode just about this? Yes But I think it’d make a better Short Trek. YMMV

 

[Tosk]

I don't see why it's assumed to have happened in the 2260s.
Picard says it hasn't been performed in over a hundred years. For all we know the ban was years before SNW even started.

Fingers crossed, at least.
Personally, not everything needs to be explored. I also don't want a story where we see Boothby being born.

 

[TheFlutteringHorde]

it'd be an interesting background graphic. Like the news broadcast ticker in Into Darkness saying something like "CADETS KILLED IN DANGEROUS FLIGHT MANEUVER" with a picture of the starburst but not something that I think would be riveting for a whole episode.

 

[Sci]

Why? I mean, where's the story?

 

[somebuddyX]

Well I want SNW to bring back 09 Kirk's dad's corvette, so sure, why not?

 

[FederationHistorian]

If you want to showcase the disaster, fine.

But the maneuver itself should have its origins back in the ENT era, or shortly thereafter. Maybe during the 25th anniversary of the Federation? Makes sense that someone would want to break out a special new maneuver then.

 

[Bornin1980something]

Well I want SNW to bring back 09 Kirk's dad's corvette, so sure, why not?

To do the Kolvoord Carburst?

 

[Sci]

But the maneuver itself should have its origins back in the ENT era, or shortly thereafter.

... again, why?

It's a flight maneuver that cadets are banned from, not epic secret forbidden knowledge.

This is the equivalent of expecting an episode of The Gilded Age to be about why it's illegal to turn left on red.

 

[fireproof78]

But the maneuver itself should have its origins back in the ENT era, or shortly thereafter. Maybe during the 25th anniversary of the Federation? Makes sense that someone would want to break out a special new maneuver then

No...it shouldn't.

It hadn't been used in a hundred years per dialog, but there's no reason to have it at the founding.

PICARD: Five ships crossing within ten metres of each other and igniting their plasma trails. One of the most spectacular and difficult demonstrations of precision flying. It hasn't been performed at the Academy team in over a hundred years. Do you know why?

This is the equivalent of expecting an episode of The Gilded Age to be about why it's illegal to turn left on red.

That episode would be really stop and go.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I don't see why it's assumed to have happened in the 2260s.
Picard says it hasn't been performed in over a hundred years. For all we know the ban was years before SNW even started.

Fingers crossed, at least.
Personally, not everything needs to be explored. I also don't want a story where we see Boothby being born.

Boothby has always been that age.

 

[The Wormhole]

Boothby has always been that age.

And still is, even in the 32nd century. You have no idea how much trouble him, Kovich and Pelia can get up to.

 

[Sci]

I actually really like the idea that Boothby is this ancient, timeless man who has always been 70 years old and has always tended the Academy grounds.

 

[DonIago]

I don't see the point of bringing it into SNW unless it was made pertinent to one or more of the SNW characters. But given the nature of the accident, that would likely involve killing said characters, or people important to said characters. But then...where do you go from there? Is the character's trauma going to be a story beat for several episodes to come?

Part of the problem here is that this isn't a tragic accident so much as it is something going wrong during a daredevil stunt that people arguably shouldn't be attempting in the first place.

 

[somebuddyX]

To do the Kolvoord Carburst?

Hells yes!

 

[Mudd]

Does anyone think SNW should portray the original Kolvoord Starburst disaster - the one that killed all 5 cadets who attempted it in the 2260s?

How old is the maneuver? Was it banned shortly after it was invented? Who or what or where was Kolvoord, its namesake? Who were the cadets who died in the 2260s? Any connection to any character we know? Under what circumstances was the maneuver invented - simply as a cool stunt, or used by its originator to achieve some objective?

So many questions.

No.

There are too many real stories they can do. This is really, really trivial and meaningless fan service.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Does anyone think SNW should portray the original Kolvoord Starburst disaster - the one that killed all 5 cadets who attempted it in the 2260s?

No. Largely because David A. Goodman already used it in The Autobiography of James T. Kirk, where

Spoiler

Kirk and Gary Mitchell were survivors of the accident that resulted in it being banned.

 

[Bornin1980something]

No. Largely because David A. Goodman already used it in The Autobiography of James T. Kirk, where

Spoiler

Kirk and Gary Mitchell were survivors of the accident that resulted in it being banned.

That doesn't make sense.