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Missing 32" Enterprise finally found...

I seem to recall that at the 20th anniversary convention in 1986 that GR was presented with a framed photo of the Enterprise A (and if you looked you could see that it WAS the A) from ILM to "replace" his motion picture Enterprise since it was presumably taken back after they needed it for The Voyage Home.

1) Is this true?
2) Did I misread this all these years and they were talking about the 3 footer?

It's in Starlog #112 (the 20th anniversary issue). If I have to I THINK I know what box it's in. I can dig it up.
 
And now that we know Jein still had the Galileo studio model, does the Smithsonian know that what they have is a replica and not the restored original model?

can you expand upon this? I didn't think the Smithsonian had a model of the Galileo, other than when this one was loaned to them for the 1992 exhibit.

edit: I see the auction is the same as when it appeared in the TNG episode in '87, but the one in the exhibit has the correct TOS paint job, very strange.
 
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? So what if he hasn't reached out to the Roddenberrys and is instead selling it for it's worth. He's under no obligation to give it away, they're rich, and they have no shortage of their own memorabilia, assuming it hasn't all been sold in the process of getting richer. Hell, it is more honest to Genes mercurial nature for the guy to sell it for all it's worth to the highest bidder than to let sentiment enter into his deal. Let the guy enjoy his windfall, I say. If Rod wants it he can take a week or two of his producer cheques and buy it.

It's television history and if it was stolen he'll have to give it back.
 
Bezos bought the Refit...and put it up for display. Perhaps if he can pay the finder, it will at least wind up in the hands of Kerr and company to restore it anyway.
 
Bezos bought the Refit...and put it up for display. Perhaps if he can pay the finder, it will at least wind up in the hands of Kerr and company to restore it anyway.
I'm surprised with all the money Bezos has and the fact he's a Star Trek fan....that he doesn't have the thing in a display case. It's out it the open where all sorts of things could happen to it...
 
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In fairness, it's only been six business days. Probably take some time for lawyers to do the research to figure out what the legal ramifications are. What kind of hook 'he' is or isn't on.

'Guy' has to know though that he'll never be able to sell anything else under that Ebay username again without a bunch of us showing up to ask, 'Where'd it go?'
 
One more reason to do the right thing, ere face the wrath of fans to the end of his days....

psst...hey CBS...shh..I hear he is filming Axanar...signed...avid fan
I'm ALMOST certain you're kidding. But boy, wouldn't THAT be the craziest wrinkle in the story?
 
I'm extremely bored with, disconnected to, and uninterested in modern Star Trek since years and this is the best exciting news I read in a long time.
I’ve been uninterested in new Trek for decades, particularly since 2009. I find the newer stuff poorly written, badly conceived and the characters largely stupid, annoying, unlikeable and not the least bit believable.
 
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I’ve been uninterested in new Trek for decades, particularly since 2009. I find the newer stuff poorly written, badly conceived and the characters largely stupid, annoying, unlikeable and not the least bit believable.

I liked the Abrams films, especially since they were proof that Star Trek is still a viable property. But CBSAA/Paramount+ Trek has left me more disillusioned as the years go by. If they made a statement tomorrow that they're going to cancel all their shows and not produce the Starfleet Academy show and Section 31 movie (neither of which was something I would have even asked for as a fan), I probably wouldn't care. I liked Prodigy but I doubt it will last past its 2nd season. SNW is ok if I watch it with the understanding that it's no different from the Abrams films as far as an actual 'reboot' is concerned. Because the idea that it is somehow in the same continuity as TOS is pretty laughable to me.

But hey, we should be talking about the missing 32" Enterprise!
 
Because the idea that it is somehow in the same continuity as TOS is pretty laughable to me.

I've got news for you -- the idea that much of TOS is in the same continuity as other parts of TOS is pretty laughable if you dwell too much on the details. And it's even harder to reconcile the specifics of TOS with TWOK, TNG, etc. Continuity in fiction is not supposed to be letter-perfect, but impressionistic. The specifics get reworked all the time, because that's how ongoing creative processes work, but the story pretends to be a continuous whole, as part of the general suspension of disbelief asked of the audience.

I mean, Marvel Comics pretends that the Spider-Man who's a thirtysomething adult in 2023 is the same Spider-Man who was a 15-year-old in 1961, that his adventures over the past 62 years have all been a single uniform continuity, even though that's impossible given the specifics. Just as it's impossible that the 11 seasons of M*A*S*H could've been a unified chronicle of a 3-year war, that the character arcs could be continuous even when the date references were retconned from 1953 back to 1951. But it works because fiction is imaginary. It's just telling stories, and naturally stories are adjusted over time to fit their evolving audience and context. But the new stories pretend to be in the same reality as the old stories, and that's perfectly legitimate, because it is all just pretending anyway. You just have to be willing to go along with the conceit. Roddenberry's own view was that Star Trek was just a dramatized recreation of Kirk's logs, with any inconsistencies between different versions like TOS, TAS, TMP, and TNG just being differences in the dramatization. They're all meant to depict the same underlying reality, they just filter it through different artistic interpretations and different eras' attitudes and production limitations.

Every single time a new incarnation of Trek comes along, going back to the original movies, there are some people who insist its differences from what came before make it impossible to reconcile with previous continuity. But the only real difference is that they've had time to rationalize or gloss over the contradictions in the previous stuff and convince themselves of the fantasy that it actually holds together, whereas they haven't had the time to rationalize the contradictions in the new stuff.
 
I've got news for you -- the idea that much of TOS is in the same continuity as other parts of TOS is pretty laughable if you dwell too much on the details.

I don't have a problem with minor inconsistencies in any specific show. It's when a 2020's production advertises itself as taking place in the same continuity as a show produced in the 1960's, then goes out of its way to make said show look and feel nothing like that '60's show, is what doesn't hold up for me.

32" Enterprise...
 
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