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It skips the Run part of it. They just arrive and leave. It was basically the pilot episode of Rebels. Given what we see of Hera since, I have no doubt she could pull off an amazing Kessel Run, though maybe not in 12 parsecs. 13 to 14 probably, and the Ghost would be in perfect shape afterwards.
 
I don't remember Kessel in Rebels. Then again, haven't seen it in ages.

As far as Deepfake, what they did with Mark Hamil for Mando S2 and BoBF was nothing short of amazing, technologically speaking.
In terms of character, the Mark Hamil deepfake did improve in BF over M2, but there's still something absent. Certainly, if you have Luke appearing again for more than 5 minutes they should recast rather than Deepfake.

The Deepfake for JEJ in Kenobi was pretty good, I think they asked him to record the lines and then ran it through the synthesizer to give it OT voice.
 
One can't help but wonder what Howard would have done with this production if it had been his from the get-go?
Isn't that more or less what we got? I was under the impression that everything they got from Lord & Miller was a disaster, and they more or less started over from scratch one Howard came in.
 
Isn't that more or less what we got? I was under the impression that everything they got from Lord & Miller was a disaster, and they more or less started over from scratch one Howard came in.

Not a "disaster," just not what they wanted. From Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solo:_A_Star_Wars_Story#Filming
It was reported that the directors were fired after Kennedy and Lawrence Kasdan disagreed with their shooting style;[3][94] Lord and Miller believed they were hired to make a comedy film, while Lucasfilm was looking for the duo only to add "a comedic touch." Lucasfilm also felt the directors were encouraging too much improvisation from the actors, which was believed to be "shifting the story off-course" from the Kasdans' script.[95] To appease Kasdan, who was unhappy with scenes not being filmed "word for word," Lord and Miller shot several takes exactly as written, then shot additional takes.[7] Lord and Miller refused to compromise on certain scenes, such as filming a scene from fewer angles than Lucasfilm expected, thereby reducing the options available in editing.[95][7] The duo were also unhappy when Lawrence Kasdan was brought to the London set, feeling he became a "shadow director."[7] The decision to remove Lord and Miller was made after a short hiatus in filming taken to review the footage so far.[3]

It also says that Howard reshot about 70% of the film, which is plenty, but certainly not starting over from scratch.
 
For the sake of clarity and not perpetuating misunderstanding; that claim that Howard "reshot 70%" is something of a misnomer. It actually comes from this article in Variety which claims: -
"When Howard came aboard, it was mandated that 85% of Lord and Miller’s “Solo” be reshot, including second unit material. Howard’s work ultimately comprises 70% of the finished film."​

My understanding is that L&M were fired while they had done most of the location shooting & second unit, and just starting shooting on the soundstage. So it's not like the film was 100% complete and they reshot 70% of it, but more like the film was about 30-40% complete (footage-wise, not counting post production obviously), reshooting most of that AND finishing the parts of the movie they hadn't even gotten to yet. So in reality, the actual reshoots probably don't amount to much more than 20-30% of the final picture, and a good chuck of that is second unit.

That article also makes it clear that the real "creative differences" weren't about improvising on the script persee, but how much it was eating into the budget by going overtime. That doesn't sound like a fireable offence until you consider that going overtime means paying the crew overtime money, which could be double, or triple the usual rates depending on the kinds of hours and days of the week you're talking about. Pretty quickly you can find yourself having spent a whole month's budget in just a week, with only the footage that should have taken a day and a half to show for it. Plus of course the mess that makes of the schedule, since every delay pushes everything else down the line, which requires even more overtime, and more expenditure.

You can get away with that kind of thing on lower budget and/or indie movie. But on a production like this? Not without a damn good reason, and certainly not as often as they apparently tried to get away with. What this comes down to is directorial mismanagement. They just weren't ready for the scale and responsibility of a production like this, and were very poorly prepared. Kennedy did her job as a producer and removed them before the whole thing imploded, then hired someone that actually knew what he was doing.

This isn't even the first time something like this has happened in a Star Wars movie. There's a very good reason why Irvin Kershner and Gary Kurtz did not come back for RotJ. tESB went way over budget, largely because Kersh was somewhat of a perfectionist on set (a less flattering way to put it would be "fussy") and that similarly led to a lot of overtime. It was Kurtz's job to manage that and reign him in, which he kinda didn't. Hence; Lucas didn't ask them back, and very deliberately hired a Director more used to working in TV and thus well accustomed to marching to the EP's tune instead of his own, and more crucially; being economical with the crew's time.

Let's also be clear on one thing: disappointment or not (a useless metric anyway given it's subjective and arbitrary nature) Howard and Kennedy managed to deliver 'Solo' as a profitable movie, by a good $100M margin. Had the ripcord not been pulled when it was, then it really would have been a disaster.
 
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Solo may have been 'profitable' in raw official numbers but in unofficial movie business terms, or by comparison with other SW films, it was seen as a failure.
 
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Solo was eminently entertaining and with all its flaws made me feel happy for two hours. If the studio or box office number-obsessed fanboys want to deem it "a failure" then that's on them and they can roll with that narrative if it makes them feel good about their jobs or their fandom.

As for me I found it one of the two best and most satisfying movies of the Disney Era and that's all I care about.
 
If something fails to meet unrealistic expectations, then it's the expectations, not the thing itself that is at fault.
Disney doesn't like to lose money, as evidenced by SW movies going on hiatus for what will end up being around 7 years.
 
There's a lot to like about it, even if I think they cast the wrong person as the lead. ( Looking at you, Fury Road. )
 
I'm glad I'm not the only person who really liked Solo. And Lucasfilm has at least not totally disowned it, since for a while now the comics have been doing a big arc with the Qi'ra controlled Crimson Dawn, and there's also a new novel coming out that fills in what Qi'ra was doing between when Han left Corellia and when he found her working for Vos.
 
I'm glad I'm not the only person who really liked Solo. And Lucasfilm has at least not totally disowned it, since for a while now the comics have been doing a big arc with the Qi'ra controlled Crimson Dawn, and there's also a new novel coming out that fills in what Qi'ra was doing between when Han left Corellia and when he found her working for Vos.
The Lando show is also becoming a movie now.
 
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