What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[Michael Two Wolves]

A Star Trek story of the week set in 1950s America is just not a Star Trek story of the week I enjoy, whether it's wormhole aliens, Q, or the holodeck.



As much as I love SF-Debris' humour I don't want to watch the video right now. Is there anything specific you want to say with it?
Other than that, I hate The Big Goodbye. Noir is really not a genre that I enjoy, and Brent Spiner looking sexy in that suit doesn't salvage the rest of the episode to me.

The video is terrible. Just thought it was funny in an ironic way that you mentioned you didn't like episodes like that and TNG had a bunch of them. I'm not much of a fan of those episodes, either.

If we want 1950s America, we watch Andy Griffith. lmao Star Trek is cool and all, but they got a little carried away in the Picard years, though I suspect that is more because he is a Shakespearean actor and they likely wanted to give him a broader range of characters to play that tapped into those skills.

 

[Orphalesion]

The video is terrible. Just thought it was funny in an ironic way that you mentioned you didn't like episodes like that and TNG had a bunch of them. I'm not much of a fan of those episodes, either.

If we want 1950s America, we watch Andy Griffith. lmao Star Trek is cool and all, but they got a little carried away in the Picard years, though I suspect that is more because he is a Shakespearean actor and they likely wanted to give him a broader range of characters to play that tapped into those skills.

Ah okay. Yeah I really don't like those episodes. And it's not even so much what exactly they are about (1950s America, a Noir Story, Robyn Hood, a Western, a Spy Novel etc.) it's just that...I want my "regular" Star Trek, not the characters placed into some genre shift.
The only ones I do like are the Captain Photon ones. I guess it's because it's still SciFi, and I do think they have great comedy.

 

[HIjol]

I hear you, Orphalesion and Michael, but Nicky the Nose?!

 

[Michael Two Wolves]

lol OMG Yaaaas! Tom Paris was hilarious, but the capper was Janeway as Queen Arachnia. Rofl

 

[Orphalesion]

I hear you, Orphalesion and Michael, but Nicky the Nose?!

I'm not a Noir fan, in fact it's a genre that I actively dislike, so characters like Nicky the Nose don't do it for me. But if you liked him, good for you :-)

 

[HIjol]

I understand.

 

[fireproof78]

Yeah, the Klingon transporter sounding like the Starfleet one would be just weird. Even in TOS the Klingon transporter effect had more of a "shimmering" sound than the Starfleet transporter.

In the TOS series the Klingon transporter had no sound, at least in "Day of the Dove."

 

[cooleddie74]

There was a weird sound foleyed in when they materialized. It's there.

 

[JesterFace]

Ok, so this might be a little Controversial Star Trek Opinion, but the only Transporter sound and visual effect should be the ones in TOS.

The TOS transporter effect just might be the best because nothing drops out of thin air on top of a character, in TOS the transportee (<- is that a word?) just starts to flash and disappears.

 

[fireproof78]

There was a weird sound foleyed in when they materialized. It's there.

Hmmm...I'll have to rewatch but when I watched in on broadcast there was no sound, and it was a also a trivia question in my TOS Trek game way back when.

 

[drt]

Did they add a sound effect tor TOS-R? (I'm too lazy to check.)

While it seems @HIjol1 meant Federation transporters, I've always had the thought that if transporters were a real technology the effect should largely look and sound the same, because the underlying physics wouldn't be different.

 

[Tallguy]

Hmmm...I'll have to rewatch but when I watched in on broadcast there was no sound, and it was a also a trivia question in my TOS Trek game way back when.

And it's a plot point in The Final Reflection.

 

[cooleddie74]

Okay, I was wrong. The Klingon materialization effect happens at around 1:28. I was mistaking background music for a shimmering sound effect.

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[Citiprime]

Interesting bit of trivia about "Far Beyond the Stars" ....

Apparently, an ending for Deep Space Nine that was at least considered at one point was the idea that the final scene would reveal the entire show to be in the imagination of Benny Russell, who would walk onto the Deep Space Nine set with the script. It would have made DS9, and arguably all of Star Trek, Benny's dream.

Recalled Ira Steven Behr, "At one point I pitched the idea that at the end of the series everything would have been from the imagination of Benny Russell. Of course they wouldn't let me do that – it would have taken away the entire franchise. But what's so crazy about the idea that DS9 was part of Benny's mind? It's part of Rick Berman's mind and Michael Piller's mind and my mind, Robert [Hewitt Wolfe]'s mind, Hans [Beimler]' mind, René [Echevarria]'s mind, and Ron [D. Moore]'s mind. So of course it's part of someone's mind."​

 

[drt]

Interesting bit of trivia about "Far Beyond the Stars" ....

Apparently, an ending for Deep Space Nine that was at least considered at one point was the idea that the final scene would reveal the entire show to be in the imagination of Benny Russell, who would walk onto the Deep Space Nine set with the script. It would have made DS9, and arguably all of Star Trek, Benny's dream.

Recalled Ira Steven Behr, "At one point I pitched the idea that at the end of the series everything would have been from the imagination of Benny Russell. Of course they wouldn't let me do that – it would have taken away the entire franchise. But what's so crazy about the idea that DS9 was part of Benny's mind? It's part of Rick Berman's mind and Michael Piller's mind and my mind, Robert [Hewitt Wolfe]'s mind, Hans [Beimler]' mind, René [Echevarria]'s mind, and Ron [D. Moore]'s mind. So of course it's part of someone's mind."​

People would have shit their pants.

 

[Michael Two Wolves]

People would have shit their pants.

Reading that, I almost shat myself. Is this Lost, or Star Trek?

 

[Tallguy]

People would have shit their pants.

Good heavens, I almost lost it when they went BACK to Benny in the asylum! That was almost too much for me right there!

 

[cooleddie74]

The whole "ENT is in a different timeline from TOS argument" is heavy enough. Can you imagine how the fanbase would have exploded had we learned it all came from inside the head of a mid-20th century American science fiction writer in a psychiatric ward?

 

[HIjol]

Why am I “warpedly” picturing Chief Inspector Dreyfus (Pink Panther) in the asylum, writing on the wall with the marker between his toes?

The Fanbase would have ended up much the same way!

 

[Richard S. Ta]

To be fair, ‘It was all a dream” is a shit ending for anything.