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What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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While I've come to appreciate cats more in recent years, I've always been and always will be a dog person.
Star Trek V actually has fewer toe-curlingly mega-cringe moments than three of the four TNG movies, or either of the two Abrams-directed movies.
Controversial Opinion. Discovery should be shopped around, just like Prodigy.
Prodigy is the one that most needs to be shopped around since Season 2 has already been produced. So that's #1. But Disco should break 100 episodes. "No it shouldn't! It doesn't need to be!" Yeah, well, that's why it's a Controversial Opinion of mine.
Despite wanting Legacy, I'm fine with leaving PIC where it is. Picard is really Episodes 179-208 of TNG. So, if you think about it as TNG, it not only already broke 100 episodes, but 200.
Prodigy is the one that most needs to be shopped around since Season 2 has already been produced. So that's #1. But Disco should break 100 episodes. "No it shouldn't! It doesn't need to be!" Yeah, well, that's why it's a Controversial Opinion of mine.
Despite wanting Legacy, I'm fine with leaving PIC where it is. Picard is really Episodes 179-208 of TNG. So, if you think about it as TNG, it not only already broke 100 episodes, but 200.
Indeed.
If it isn't yet, this will soon be the second longest thread on the forum.
What's the first?
Saying that FC should be in the trashbin is like saying TFF is the greatest film of all time. Despite how you feel about the film, its not really true.
Controversial opinion:
An opinion need not be factually correct to be sincerely held. And we are encouraged to be controversial in the thread. Moreover, your own opinion stated here is no more "true" than his--your equivalency is hardly unavoidable.
I don't like FC. The characters featured do not resemble the characters I loved on TNG.
Truth in art is subjective anyway.
So, in the Star Trek trashbin FC goes. Your opinion means precisely zero to me.
Agreed.
Agreed.
Agreed. I’ve always thought that. I saw the film when it was released, which wasn’t that long after BBC2 showed All Good Things. The film’s whole dark, grey look, the character actions, the vibes of it, it didn’t feel TNG at all, sort of generic mid budget sci-fi with Trek characters and scenarios shoehorned in.
I honestly think that if FC didn’t have what became a crucial piece of the origin story of the Trek universe in it, fans would be more objective about the film’s severe limitations.
Why do you hate Diane Carey?
Why do you hate Diane Carey?
Not sure who that is tbh
Trek Lit author who wrote a novel called Final Frontier back in the 80s.
Lol
That's not a Controversial Opinion.
Here's a Controversial Opinion. Is everyone ready? Well, ready or not, here it comes!
This will never be depicted in the shows, so this is all strictly head-canon, but I've linked the real 21st Century with Star Trek's and it's created an interesting fusion. Here it goes.
In Star Trek world, Biden loses the 2024 Election. "Look at the Sanctuary Districts!" And Trump wins. Two years later, he causes the beginning of World War III. Then, in 2028, he wants to run for President again, and is furious that he can't. And he won't go quietly into the night, so this leads to Civil War II happening at the same time as World War III. You want a 21st Century that's as bad as Star Trek's? That's the combination to get it right there. Nuclear Winter, hundreds of millions dead, the whole nine yards.
... and this is where Rios wants to stay!
I've always felt First Contact is ok. I like it, but I've never loved it. It sets up a lot of stuff that's important for the backstory of Trek. BUT ... I never felt like it moves the ball for the TNG characters in a way that the TOS movies pushed Kirk and Spock into new places that made them question everything they thought they knew. For all of Picard's anger towards the Borg, I actually think episodes like "Family" and "I Borg" did a better job expressing the character's pain and trauma than First Contact does.
This is pure speculation, but I always figured the sanctuary districts had to have been a progressive policy that became an underfunded nightmare. Sort of the same dynamic that built all of the inner city housing projects in the middle of the 20th century that became synonymous with poverty and crime.
I could envision someone saying wouldn't it be a great idea to give the homeless shelter in abandoned buildings that aren't being used where we could offer assistance and aid (e.g., I believe there are actual proposals to do just that in a lot of cities where abandoned shopping malls and downtown buildings are just boarded up). But somewhere along the line, budgets got slashed and the people that worry about property values insisted that residents stay within the four corners of the sanctuary district.
There's a British series from Russel T. Davies called Years and Years that maps out a dystopian future all the way to 2034. Part of it envisions Trump becoming a Putin-like figure, where even when the 22nd amendment disallows him from being president more than 2 terms, he still runs things through puppet Republican candidates that he controls, effectively making him dictator for life.
Eventually things go towards nuclear, when Trump launches a nuclear attack against the artificial islands that the Chinese are building in the South China Sea.
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