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What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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Khan isn't Star Trek's Joker. He's Star Trek's Moriarty. That is, he was in ONE very important story (Khan was in two stories, one very important). But he has developed a reputation far beyond the original intention. To where any subsequent iterations of the main characters now somehow revolve around him. There is even an expectation of "when are we getting back to HIM?"
The Joker, OTOH, was actually in Batman comics a lot.
The Joker, OTOH, was actually in Batman comics a lot.
Ok, that comparison works.
To be fair, I think it's a terrible idea, and I don't find Khan all that enjoyable as a character, despite Ricardo's efforts. It just isn't a fun character. But, he is iconic and that sticks out. So it comes back to that well again, and again and again.
Am I taking a risk by posting in this thread as one of my first acts as a newbie? And is this controversial enough?
Jadzia Dax was my favourite science officer in every way.
She was bright without being arrogant or socially awkward. She was funny, and could sit down at a table full of Klingons and hold her own. She was empathetic without being oversensitive and weepy. She was brave without being reckless. And she stood out as beautiful in a regulation uniform, without being singled out or having to wear a skintight jumpsuit.
I don't read enough praise for her character. She stands out to me, and always has.
Jadzia Dax was my favourite science officer in every way.
She was bright without being arrogant or socially awkward. She was funny, and could sit down at a table full of Klingons and hold her own. She was empathetic without being oversensitive and weepy. She was brave without being reckless. And she stood out as beautiful in a regulation uniform, without being singled out or having to wear a skintight jumpsuit.
I don't read enough praise for her character. She stands out to me, and always has.
Welcome aboard.
I don't think that's a really controversial opinion. I liked Jadzia a lot, too.
Welcome aboard, Doctor!
I would say that isn't terrible controversial, at least in these parts. I always like Jadzia too.
Thanks! Like I said, I'm new. I never searched for a dedicated Trek forum before, so I don't know what the general takes are on here. I just know that in most places I've ever discussed Star Trek, I encounter a lot of dismissal of DS9 and its characters.
I'll have to work harder to figure out which of my takes are controversial. That, or spend 100+ hours scouring posts on the forum to figure out how many people have already agreed with me
I'll have to work harder to figure out which of my takes are controversial. That, or spend 100+ hours scouring posts on the forum to figure out how many people have already agreed with me
Also, I have apparently failed to multi-quote properly, but I wanted to reply to everyone who commented to far. I'm so pleased to have found this place, I did not expect so many direct replies so quickly!
I'll get the hang of the quote system shortly, I'm sure. I'm on a phone right now so it also might just be a browser issue.
I'll get the hang of the quote system shortly, I'm sure. I'm on a phone right now so it also might just be a browser issue.
Say how terrible DS9 is. That'll get you some looks.
I suppose everything is controversial to some. I have it on good authority that there are some that are dismissive of Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Oh, the huge matinee!
Thanks! Like I said, I'm new. I never searched for a dedicated Trek forum before, so I don't know what the general takes are on here. I just know that in most places I've ever discussed Star Trek, I encounter a lot of dismissal of DS9 and its characters.
I'll have to work harder to figure out which of my takes are controversial. That, or spend 100+ hours scouring posts on the forum to figure out how many people have already agreed with me
I think you'll find a lot of love for DS9 around here. (Sisko is my favorite captain.) There's a section of the forum that is DS9 specific. Definitely should check it out.
DS9 is still my second-favorite Trek series behind TOS.
Although, interestingly, Batman creators Bill Finger and Bob Kane originally intended to kill the Joker off after just two stories. At the end of the Joker's second appearance in Batman #1, the Joker accidentally stabs himself after Batman dodges his knife. The Joker dies, laughing at the irony of killing himself. But at the last moment the editor (or the creators) had second thoughts about killing off such a great villain, so they added an extra panel at the end where a medical examiner declared (in a wonderfully unintentionally funny word balloon), "This man -- he isn't dead! He's still alive -- and he's going to live!"
https://comiconlinefree.net/batman-1940/issue-1/65
It's a pain but it should pop up in the lower right hand of a post, even on mobile.
Very dismissive of TMP. Like all the time I dismiss it.
Missed it by that much.
Risk is our business.
No.Jadzia is awesome.
Hah! Success! I see now that it's a sort of clipboard type system. Honestly that's a lot more intuitive than the crappy quoting system I have to use on my favourite guitar forum.
So, Tallguy, how's this for controversial?
I've marathoned/bought DVDs/streamed/watched original airings/pirated (oops) and/or gone about consuming all of the TV shows and movies from TNG onward in an organized fashion, but have only watched TOS and the TOS-era movies when they happened to be aired on TV or on an airplane.
It's just that they were aired so frequently on the Space channel when I was a bored teenager that I never felt the need to watch them in order, or make sure I hadn't missed any details.
For all I know, there are entire movie scenes cut for TV edits that I've never seen, or an episode of TOS that somehow missed me.
Should I raise shields and prepare to be boarded?
They could put an extended moratorium on Khan Singh, Soongs, augments and all that stuff and I think Trek as a whole would benefit hugely from it.
We are definitely discovering a lot of people who haven't even watched TOS. I would be very curious for you to watch it through and see what you do and don't remember. That would be a fun experiment.
Borg, Klingons, time travel, and holodeck malfunctions are on that list for me as well.
I hated it when ENT came out, and even though I still think a full orchestra version of the Archer theme would have made a better intro, I'm more and more nostalgic and fond about the song as it relates to Trek and even listen to it every now and then outside of watching the show. The Russel Watson *and* the Rod Stewart version too, even.
And the worst part: I keep wishing it got another reference in contemporary Trek, apart from the LD mention. (which was an awesome line)
I really should. I'm loving SNW, but I'm constantly realizing how many references have gone over my head.
I mean, did you even realize that La'an is related to...the guy who created Data?
Just kidding.
I'm not nearly that poor of a Trekkie.But you're right, it's probably time for me to marathon TOS and the movies to see what I remember and what I might have missed. It's not like it's as big a time commitment as TNG, DS9 or Voyager, and I've rewatched those more than once!
Considering TOS episodes were roughly 49-50 minutes long, if you watched them on broadcast or syndication, chances are high that you missed a LOT of scenes. An hour of programming now has around 18-20 minutes of commercials, leaving about 40-42 minutes (at best) for an episode. I remember when I was a kid, the TOS episodes I saw on tv and watching them when I rented them from Blockbuster, I was floored to discover many scenes I never saw before. It was a real treat for me.
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