Who's the Shooter?

[Shatmandu]

Spoilers.




Hiya, folks.

I think the jungle shooter was Ben, or at least he set it up.

Who convinced them to head out there? Who was sooo magnanimus about saying, "Your mother will protect you."

Who benefits from Carl and Rousseau being dead?

Ben.

That's one wiley mother-fucker. He got his daughter back.

Joe, live

 

[McCoy]

Agreed, that was my first thought as well.

 

[DeafPoet]

Actually seems like it's Keamy and his band of guys who like to "shoot stuff" from the frighter. Would explain where Lapidus was headed on the chopper in "Ji Yeon" and why Keamy was anxious to get going.

 

[Shatmandu]

Actually seems like it's Keamy and his band of guys who like to "shoot stuff" from the frighter. Would explain where Lapidus was headed on the chopper in "Ji Yeon" and why Keamy was anxious to get going.

Could be.

The Ben way seems more "Lost-ish" to me.

Plus, you've got the twist of his daughter immideately betraying him, shouting out who she is so she could be used rather than killed.

Joe, also tried "Lost-esque" and "Lost-ian"

 

[label]

I think the jungle shooter was Ben, or at least he set it up.

Who convinced them to head out there? Who was sooo magnanimus about saying, "Your mother will protect you."

Who benefits from Carl and Rousseau being dead?

Ben.

I tend to agree that Ben was involved in their deaths, but I think he's more to it than just having his people take out Karl and possibly Rousseau. Maybe he used knowledge of an impending attack from the frieghter to his benefit and let them do the dirty wok he didn't to do (ala Goodwin).

Only problem with that theory is that he is possibly endangering his "daughter". Still, I wouldn't put it past him.

 

[Rat Boy]

Actually seems like it's Keamy and his band of guys who like to "shoot stuff" from the frighter. Would explain where Lapidus was headed on the chopper in "Ji Yeon" and why Keamy was anxious to get going.

Indeed. Also note the gunfire came from weapons fitting with sound suppressors, something we haven't seen the Others use before and I doubt their relatively old rifles can be fitted with them. Keamy's MP-5 we saw in the flashback, however, can.

 

[Gertch]

Even though they liked to shoot things, why wouldn't they try to capture them instead of sniping them?

It'll be interesting to see if Alex is shot or taken. And of course by whom.

Either way, I think Ben set them up the bomb.

 

[Magisterfrodo]

Actually seems like it's Keamy and his band of guys who like to "shoot stuff" from the frighter. Would explain where Lapidus was headed on the chopper in "Ji Yeon" and why Keamy was anxious to get going.

Indeed. Also note the gunfire came from weapons fitting with sound suppressors, something we haven't seen the Others use before and I doubt their relatively old rifles can be fitted with them. Keamy's MP-5 we saw in the flashback, however, can.

Are we sure it was gunfire? I got the impression it was several people using some kind of blow-darts - something someone who'd been on the island a couple of hundred years might use.

 

[Rat Boy]

Even though they liked to shoot things, why wouldn't they try to capture them instead of sniping them?

It'll be interesting to see if Alex is shot or taken. And of course by whom.

Either way, I think Ben set them up the bomb.

We get signal!

And the shooters probably don't know Alex exists. I doubt Ben ever took her off the island during his travels.

Actually seems like it's Keamy and his band of guys who like to "shoot stuff" from the frighter. Would explain where Lapidus was headed on the chopper in "Ji Yeon" and why Keamy was anxious to get going.

Indeed. Also note the gunfire came from weapons fitting with sound suppressors, something we haven't seen the Others use before and I doubt their relatively old rifles can be fitted with them. Keamy's MP-5 we saw in the flashback, however, can.

Are we sure it was gunfire? I got the impression it was several people using some kind of blow-darts - something someone who'd been on the island a couple of hundred years might use.

You would have seen a dark in Karl and Danielle.

 

[Zulu Romeo]

Intriguingly I remember seeing the entry wound on Karl's chest, and a big exit wound on his back. Unless he got a "Henry"-style lung puncture, he's probably gone.

I didn't see any on Danielle, though.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Actually seems like it's Keamy and his band of guys who like to "shoot stuff" from the frighter. Would explain where Lapidus was headed on the chopper in "Ji Yeon" and why Keamy was anxious to get going.

Indeed. Also note the gunfire came from weapons fitting with sound suppressors, something we haven't seen the Others use before and I doubt their relatively old rifles can be fitted with them. Keamy's MP-5 we saw in the flashback, however, can.

Are we sure it was gunfire? I got the impression it was several people using some kind of blow-darts - something someone who'd been on the island a couple of hundred years might use.

Actually, that was my first thought when Karl was killed. But the more I heard the sounds, the more they sounded like suppressed gunfire. Pity, I've been hoping for ancient natives since the end of the last season (in fact, that's who I thought Naomi was going to be before we first met her).

 

[Aragorn]

The shooters are the Widmore mercs led by the 3:10 to Yuma guy. Do you really expect Alex to yell out that she's Ben's daughter to simply result in her being spared by the Others who are doing the shooting? Or that it'll result in her being captured by those who want Ben?

 

[Starbreaker]

I can't even venture to make a guess. I'll just hold my breath for a month.

 

[Scout101]

It wouldn't have made much sense for them to show the mercs on the boat target practicing for no good reason if it WASN'T them that did the shooting later on. Seems a pretty obvious connection...

 

[Spot's Meow]

I don't think it was ever intended that Alex would be shot. I think that Ben set this up to get Karl and Rousseau out of the way, and then Alex will be taken to the Temple to live with the others. This solves three problems for Ben: getting his daughter away from Karl, getting Rousseau out of the picture, and making sure that Alex makes it safely to the Temple. Alex's shouting is useless since they weren't going to kill her anyway, she just doesn't know that.

There are other possibilities, and the information about the guns used poses some questions about who it really is, but for now this seems the most likely explanation to me.

 

[Aragorn]

It wouldn't have made much sense for them to show the mercs on the boat target practicing for no good reason if it WASN'T them that did the shooting later on. Seems a pretty obvious connection...

Well, some people are convinced last week was a Jin flashforward where he faked his death and has a new life and wife.

 

[Capn Flukie]

Joe, also tried "Lost-esque" and "Lost-ian"

Lost-afarian?

 

[Mistral]

Joe, also tried "Lost-esque" and "Lost-ian"

I like Lostafarian. May abandon my Polish heritage for that!

note-there was a wound on Rousseau

theory-the shooters are from the freighter-I think the writers tipped their hand with her final comment about Daddy-the Others know who she is, she wouldn't have to say that-so they goofed a little and gave away that it was a-holes from the freighter.

 

[Shatmandu]

Do you really expect Alex to yell out that she's Ben's daughter to simply result in her being spared by the Others who are doing the shooting? Or that it'll result in her being captured by those who want Ben?

Ben told her the shippers would use her against him.

He planted the idea in her head that any danger she faced, it was them.

Joe, twisted

 

[PsychoPere]

My very first thought -- and the one I'm going to continue to assume is the case until we get confirmation -- while watching the show was that the ambushers were from the mercs from the freighter. Fits in well with the "errand" that Lapidus was running.