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Spoilers Strange New Worlds Episode 7 - Those Old Scientists

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This episode was fine. Just fine. Nothing great, nothing terrible.

I suppose if you love the humour that Lower Decks offers you will probably think this is 'The Greatest Episode of All time' and from reading the thread and some reviews I do think those fans have gone somewhat OTT in their praise. However, they are entitled to.

I find Lower Decks to be somewhat of a silly diversion, and maybe that's all its meant to be, and that's ok.

That doesn't mean I want to see it linked with what I would consider to be 'Real Trek' in this manner (for me Lower Decks, Prodigy and any other animated spin off should not be considered canon but I understand that TPTB do not see it so).

As such I was somewhat pessimistic about how much I would enjoy the episode as I started to watch it.

I enjoyed it. It was, on occasion, funny.

It was however also too absurd to really take seriously, and as such I would, as stated above, class it as fine, just fine.

On a larger scale, I am concerned about SNW. 7 episodes into the series, and in my opinion the show has done little to extend on the premise to 'Seek out new worlds etc.'

Courtroom drama, two comedy episodes, one not terribly great time travel story, and a non event season opener, and a horror episode, leading to only one episode 'Among the Lotus Eaters' where really any 'Strange New World' was actually visited, and also an episode which I believe, to be the weakest of the season so far.

We have also had now, 3 episodes in a row which take place entirely on the ship (well around 95% of the episode at least).

In a large season run, I would consider most of the episodes of Season 2 broadcast so far as to be 'filler' episodes. Ok, but nothing special.

I think its a shame, especially because season 1 offered so much promise.
 
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So I watched it again. During the scene when Boims and Mariner are trying to send a message from the shuttle: Where the heck are all of those shuttles going? And why are they doing it all in the dark?

We see a shuttle leave the ship. And the bay is dark. And Boimler has a flashlight. That we can see. In fact he has to have already been there when the shuttle leaves. Then he gets in the shuttle and we see the bay doors are still open. Then they are surprised by ANOTHER departing shuttle. ALSO in the DARK. Then La'an surprises them.
 
Tallguy said:
So I watched it again. During the scene when Boims and Mariner are trying to send a message from the shuttle: Where the heck are all of those shuttles going? And why are they doing it all in the dark?

We see a shuttle leave the ship. And the bay is dark. And Boimler has a flashlight. That we can see. In fact he has to have already been there when the shuttle leaves. Then he gets in the shuttle and we see the bay doors are still open. Then they are surprised by ANOTHER departing shuttle. ALSO in the DARK. Then La'an surprises them.
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Obviously to the sun at the center of that system. It's safer to go when it's dark.
 
Tallguy said:
So I watched it again. During the scene when Boims and Mariner are trying to send a message from the shuttle: Where the heck are all of those shuttles going? And why are they doing it all in the dark?

We see a shuttle leave the ship. And the bay is dark. And Boimler has a flashlight. That we can see. In fact he has to have already been there when the shuttle leaves. Then he gets in the shuttle and we see the bay doors are still open. Then they are surprised by ANOTHER departing shuttle. ALSO in the DARK. Then La'an surprises them.
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Don’t know about the light levels, but I like that the shuttles are utilized while the Enterprise is orbiting for awhile.
No reason not to conduct data collection and research in the system while the main ship is idle.
It’s what an exploration expedition should do.
 
Tallguy said:
So I watched it again. During the scene when Boims and Mariner are trying to send a message from the shuttle: Where the heck are all of those shuttles going? And why are they doing it all in the dark?

We see a shuttle leave the ship. And the bay is dark. And Boimler has a flashlight. That we can see. In fact he has to have already been there when the shuttle leaves. Then he gets in the shuttle and we see the bay doors are still open. Then they are surprised by ANOTHER departing shuttle. ALSO in the DARK. Then La'an surprises them.
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How big would you say that shuttle bay is?
 
It looks about three or four shutttlecraft deep if you lined them all up end to end from the back wall to the hangar doors and outer landing lip.
 
Serveaux said:
How big would you say that shuttle bay is?
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Shuttle bay sized. Rule of Star Trek: Even if the ship is too big, the shuttle bay is still too big to fit inside it.

cooleddie74 said:
It looks about three or four shutttlecraft deep if you lined them all up end to end from the back wall to the hangar doors and outer landing lip.
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SNW shuttles?
 
Timelord Victorious said:
Don’t know about the light levels, but I like that the shuttles are utilized while the Enterprise is orbiting for awhile.
No reason not to conduct data collection and research in the system while the main ship is idle.
It’s what an exploration expedition should do.
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See, I knew someone would come up with a logical explanation if I just waited long enough.
 
This hangar bay doesn't really look that much bigger than the TOS one. The TOS hangar deck could probably handle three or four shuttlecraft if they were all on-deck and awaiting launch.
 
No, they don't look that big. They look bigger than TOS shuttlecraft but not by that much. They still feel like they can be TOS ones, just more detailed.
 
No matter how big or small they are, I'm sure there will magically be an inexhaustible supply for when they all crash on an alien world, get sucked into a black hole, blow up randomly, or get stolen by Q etc.
 
parsonsm said:
No matter how big or small they are, I'm sure there will magically be an inexhaustible supply for when they all crash on an alien world, get sucked into a black hole, blow up randomly, or get stolen by Q etc.
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This isn't VOYAGER. The writers on this show wouldn't say 'we have a full complement of shuttles' after the guy who said that personally destroyed three of them. (And a fourth one over a year later after making that statement.)
 
The SNW shuttle is a bit over 50ft long according to the internal set blueprints.

That's with the ramp down. It is a bit over 25 ft wide
 
parsonsm said:
In a large season run, I would consider most of the episodes of Season 2 broadcast so far as to be 'filler' episodes. Ok, but nothing special..
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Kinda depends on how you define "filler," I guess. To my mind, something as bold and experimental and unique as this crossover is the very opposite of "filler." To me, "filler" would be some generic, meat-and-potatoes Trek episode where they visit a planet and have a cool STAR TREK adventure, as opposed to a "special" episode that breaks the mold and stands out from the pack.

Not that there's anything wrong with a "typical" ST adventure. (I've probably written more than my fair share of them.) Most episodes of most TV shows stick to a basic formula because that's what the viewers expect. But that just makes the more offbeat and unusual episodes even more special.

So far Season Two seems to be going out of their way to do all sorts of different stuff, just like TOS did. This is a good thing, in my book. Big swings and all that.

Keeps things fresh and engaging.
 
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